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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

JK Rowling tweeting now about 3 actors who revealed her home address on Twitter

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SocialConnection · 22/11/2021 12:34

The police are involved and all three have locked their accounts.

I hope their agents will take note.

mobile.twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1462758324177444870

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yourhairiswinterfire · 23/11/2021 12:37

It doesn't matter if JKR lives in a castle, or is a squillionaire, or that fans have posed there before.

For the last year or more, many trans activists have bombarded her with death threats, rape threats, and one charmer told her he hopes she gets a pipe bomb in the mail.

Is it really that hard to understand why seeing 3 trans activists turn up outside her home may have alarmed her? Why she might be concerned for other women that have faced the same abuse but don't have the same security?

QueenSue · 23/11/2021 12:40

JK Rowling has a family, and a traumatic background with domestic violence. She and her family deserve to feel safe in their home.
Who the fuck cares if they're rich?!

PriamFarrl · 23/11/2021 12:59

I heard about this on the news this morning.
They aren’t covering themselves in glory here are they.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 23/11/2021 13:01

And I can't think of a way of interpreting "don't be a cissy" that isn't either homophobic or derogatory to gender non-conforming boys/men. Vile.

I agree.

LangificusClegasaurous · 23/11/2021 13:33

allmywhat
The one about mocking people by using "cissy" [being] transmisognystic is puzzling but I guess it makes sense to someone out there...

I get it but it will be very hard to explain without a deletion! Here goes:

I infer that this person falls into the same category as Andrea Long Chu, the acclaimed TW writer on trans issues who wrote "Sissy Porn made me trans." And therefore this person is sensitive about "cissy" being used as an insult for women because it implies that there might be something negative about sissy porn. They're claiming it's transmisogynistic (hateful towards TW) because they believe that many other TW are also trans because of sissy porn.

Thank you, allmywhat! Now that I see it laid out, it makes sense in that "why didn't I realize it at first" sort of way.

MonsignorMirth · 23/11/2021 13:35

I thought it was transphobic to say anything can make you trans? Isn't it an innate part of you?

LillithTheLynx · 23/11/2021 13:38

The DfE's SoS has just tweeted in JKR's support: twitter.com/nadhimzahawi/status/1463125334790967300?s=21

Journeyofthedragons · 23/11/2021 13:52

It is never acceptable to take photos of anyone's private house that you have a disagreement with (or worse) and post online.

Maybe, it is legal however.

RepentMotherfucker · 23/11/2021 13:55

@MargaritaPie

“ It is understood that the actors committed no criminal offence”

Yes as I previously said it's about as illegal as taking a selfie in front of Buckingham Palace then putting it online and someone reporting you for "doxxing" the Queen.

Or would be if the queen didn't have 75 other houses any of which if you turned up outside them you'd be in plastic handcuffs before you could say 'the TAs told me to do it'.
WarriorN · 23/11/2021 13:58

Well it appears a lot of disgusting shit is legal on Twitter vit doesn't mean it's socially acceptable.

allmywhat · 23/11/2021 14:03

@MonsignorMirth

I thought it was transphobic to say anything can make you trans? Isn't it an innate part of you?
Yes, many TRAs were very angry with Long Chu for being open about that. They thought it made the trans community look bad. 🤐
SolasAnla · 23/11/2021 14:03

@nauticant I totally agree that the police service have been given notice that she expects the Police to act. Not just for her but on behalf of her family, friends and other visitors

Editing down the message the police were tagged in:

" ..on Twitter.. three activist.. in front of our house.. to ensure that our address was visible.. thank you to everybody who reported..Your kindness and decency made all the difference to my family and me.
I’d also like to thank @PoliceScotland for their support and assistance in this matter....
I’ve watched, appalled, as women..
(PS PoliceScotland you investigated a chargeable offence before)
..have been subject to campaigns of intimidation.. hounded on social media.. all the way up to doxing and direct threats of violence, including rape.
None of these women are protected in the way I am ..put into a state of fear and distress..doxxing me would intimidate.. I’ve now received so many death threats I could paper the house with them.. is to stop stalking, harassing and threatening us. "

This was 3/4 people forming a plan of action to harass a private individual for her political views. From finding her address to the coordinated Twitter posts and the second post by one it's not a single individual acting in isolation. It's a safe bet that the 3 will have published other SM about her and even retweeted 3rd party messages.

She earned a lot of money so she is at risk from kidnapping or attack just from that fact alone. So she would have had security who risk assess public messages about her long before this kicked off. So someone on her staff will have a job of creating a file Nutjob#### to risk asses on the basis of what Nutjob#### thinks is acceptable level of violence.
Arriving at the home of an individual you don't like is not in anyway low risk.

Harassment over political views is not just a public order offrence it can fall under anti-terrorist legislation.

The 3 did themselves no favour at all, no-one with any cop-on will support people turning up a home.
It triggers an instinctive revulsion because we would not want to be victimised in that way ourselves.

@ArabellaScott for the virgil ☕🌯

334bu · 23/11/2021 14:08

es as I previously said it's about as illegal as taking a selfie in front of Buckingham Palace then putting it online and someone reporting you for "doxxing" the Queen.

It is also not illegal to say that lesbians shouldn't say they have been raped if their rapist is a male person who identifies as s woman but it is still morally reprehensible. Wouldn't you agree Margarita????

MistandMud · 23/11/2021 14:09

'Her transphobic views' seem to be mainly that women are wary of men, often for good reason, and that many women can't pretend to themselves that transwomen are female.

Their response is to try to frighten her out of saying it.

She admitted to being a victim. And rather than sympathising, they hate her for it.

Their behaviour is ludicrously selfish, and they can't even see it.

MistandMud · 23/11/2021 14:09

I meant JKR, but I see that it also applies to 334bu's post.

Journeyofthedragons · 23/11/2021 14:13

She earned a lot of money so she is at risk from kidnapping or attack just from that fact alone. So she would have had security who risk assess public messages about her long before this kicked off

This is why I'm worried for her -

Original actors tweet - tiny amount of coverage
Tweets pointing out the original tweet - slightly larger amount of coverage
JKR tweet - insanely huge amounts of coverage.

It would be fair to say that there are 100s of thousands more people now who know JKR's home address than did 24hrs ago.

Doubletoilandtrouble · 23/11/2021 14:18

I personally find it offensive that people are trying to invalidate Long Chu’s lived experience. They are trans and they feel that being turned on by sissy porn (transwomen with penises) made them trans.

Why are trans people trying to kink shame Long Chu?

I think everyone can do what they want with their bodies and engage in any sexual activities with any consenting adults. However, if you work with children, your social media profile needs to be clean and you need to follow safeguarding procedures.

How can trans people simultaneously kind shame Long Chu (who published a book as far as I am aware) and tell us that we are meanies for saying that transwomen girl guide leaders shouldn’t post pictures of themselves in full BDSM gear?

Can someone please explain? I am probably a bit dim today?

Saucery · 23/11/2021 14:21

@Journeyofthedragons

She earned a lot of money so she is at risk from kidnapping or attack just from that fact alone. So she would have had security who risk assess public messages about her long before this kicked off

This is why I'm worried for her -

Original actors tweet - tiny amount of coverage
Tweets pointing out the original tweet - slightly larger amount of coverage
JKR tweet - insanely huge amounts of coverage.

It would be fair to say that there are 100s of thousands more people now who know JKR's home address than did 24hrs ago.

So she should have kept quiet about intimidating behavior because she’s made it worse for herself? Hmm
Journeyofthedragons · 23/11/2021 14:26

So she should have kept quiet about intimidating behavior because she’s made it worse for herself?

Not at all, I was saying that the safety of herself and her family has now been significantly compromised by her tweet which is a worry.

allmywhat · 23/11/2021 14:29

the safety of herself and her family has now been significantly compromised by her tweet

10/10 DARVO there.

Helleofabore · 23/11/2021 14:30

@Journeyofthedragons

She earned a lot of money so she is at risk from kidnapping or attack just from that fact alone. So she would have had security who risk assess public messages about her long before this kicked off

This is why I'm worried for her -

Original actors tweet - tiny amount of coverage
Tweets pointing out the original tweet - slightly larger amount of coverage
JKR tweet - insanely huge amounts of coverage.

It would be fair to say that there are 100s of thousands more people now who know JKR's home address than did 24hrs ago.

Another version of victim blaming.
Saucery · 23/11/2021 14:30

You say she shouldn’t have tweeted because that act of tweeting has now made her and her family more unsafe. You are stating that her own actions highlighting the concerning behaviour has had the effect of significantly compromising their safety.

Doubletoilandtrouble · 23/11/2021 14:31

So posters here think this is all JK Rowlings own fault? Wow.

Theflamingnerd · 23/11/2021 14:31

@Journeyofthedragons

She earned a lot of money so she is at risk from kidnapping or attack just from that fact alone. So she would have had security who risk assess public messages about her long before this kicked off

This is why I'm worried for her -

Original actors tweet - tiny amount of coverage
Tweets pointing out the original tweet - slightly larger amount of coverage
JKR tweet - insanely huge amounts of coverage.

It would be fair to say that there are 100s of thousands more people now who know JKR's home address than did 24hrs ago.

Aaaand there we have it.

Victim is abused
Victim stands up for themselves, calls out abuser
Victim is blamed for abusers actions, victim is told they should've just kept quiet and not made a fuss

Blibbyblobby · 23/11/2021 14:34

@Franca123

Can anyone explain to me what 'Don't be a cissy' is about? Are they telling everyone it is wrong to be 'cis' and we all need to choose a new 'gender identity' or else we're 'transphobes'?
Just a play on words. Sissy…weak, threatened, cowardly person.

So cissy… weak, threatened, cowardly person who is specifically cis and whose cis-ness is relevant.

So basically, don’t be that cis person, the one who is fragile and threatened by trans people.

Because in gender ideology, fear, threat and hatred are the only possible explanations for why so many people don’t accept that a trans person’s inner gender is more than enough justification to undefine female people’s rights, autonomy, spaces and political voice.

The idea that there might be meaningful frustrations, risks and consequences to having a female body that cannot be experienced by a male no matter how they identify is just simply too far outside their box to perceive.

(Might possibly also be condemning cis men who appropriate trans women’s appearance for a sissy fetish without actually being trans but that is probably crediting the sign’s creator with too much insight, and also doesn’t really fit the context).

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