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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Billy Bragg and new lyric to sexuality.

100 replies

PriamFarrl · 11/11/2021 22:20

He is trending on Twitter and the tweets are interesting.

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Eyesofdisarray · 14/11/2021 10:59

What a twit. I remember him first time around and didn't rate him then.
Misoynistic git and a crap singer
(Good job I checked my post; nearly put "fap" singer 😲)

KittenKong · 14/11/2021 12:10

I thought he was very ‘put on’ - I’ve never met him but I’m my minds eye he was the ‘man Ov da peeeoul’ who would don a silk smoking jacket and slippers and sip brandy whilst rafting his feet on a probe serf.

I had the pleasure of hearing him perform lecture at a demo rally around 1986. I was still at school but thought he was a tit. Just didn’t sound ‘authentic’ and full of himself. Can’t sing for toffee.

I’m sure he is a delight in real life 🙄

PronounssheRa · 14/11/2021 12:30

I thought he was very ‘put on’ - I’ve never met him but I’m my minds eye he was the ‘man Ov da peeeoul’ who would don a silk smoking jacket and slippers and sip brandy whilst rafting his feet on a probe serf.

Chez Bragg. It pays well lecturing people about the class war and poverty

Billy Bragg and new lyric to sexuality.
Ducksareruiningmypatio · 14/11/2021 21:28

I've still not managed to get rid of the bastard tickets Hmm

toomanytrees · 14/11/2021 21:56

I've still not managed to get rid of the bastard tickets

At the rate this is going, you might have to pay someone to take them Grin.

zanahoria · 14/11/2021 22:02

The original was patronising, this is just embarrassing.

CheeseMmmm · 14/11/2021 23:02

Nice gaff.

I assume indoor pool.

Tesla73 · 16/11/2021 12:04

From Glinner - think this sums up Billy Bragg & his ilk very well. Pity the likes of him arent challenged on their hypocrisy more often

grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/the-pledge-breaker?r=hul36&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&utm_source=

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/11/2021 13:38

This terrible article was linked on another thread.

www.newstatesman.com/comment/2021/11/billy-bragg-why-ive-made-my-old-lyrics-trans-inclusive

DottyHarmer · 16/11/2021 17:15

He is the biggest hypocrite of all time…. And there are a few contenders for that “honour”.

Some years ago I saw his house - it was gorgeous. I looked it up and was rather surprised to find it belonged to Billy Bragg. He’s now sold it for £2.5m to a banker. He wanted bankers to have a £25k bonus cap. What about a £25k cap on unearned house inflation, eh? He said he’d earned all his own money - well, who hasn’t? There are not that many of us who inherit millions.

He is a stupid prat trying to jump on a new bandwagon as the 80s miners’ strike stuff is wearing a bit thin (and are miners baddies now as they were mining that terrible stuff - coal? Confused ).

prudencepuffin · 16/11/2021 18:39

I remember him banging on about how we should support the Labour Party under Tony Blair at a gig I went to some years back - he got booed by the audience and got very sulky about it. I dont think you can own a house like that and call yourself a socialist. And he`s no friend to women.

FindTheTruth · 18/11/2021 05:19

by choosing to rewrite a song about sexuality to actually remove reference to sexuality and replace it with identity, Billy has made a strong declaration of solidarity not with same-sex-attracted people, but with those who seek to render same-sex attraction unsayable

well put from this brilliant article
voidifremoved.substack.com/p/billy-bragg-i-wish-i-wish-i-wish

crispinglovershighkick · 18/11/2021 17:46

He's so earnest about changing the lyrics to Sexuality, I guess he's happy to stick with the lyrics of The Saturday Boy, where he wangs on at length (from the perspective of a grown man) about being friendzoned at school by a girl "not old enough to shave her legs", concluding, "looking back, she made us want her".
I've been a huge fan since I was a teenager, I've seen him probably half a dozen times, but he's always been the very definition of wokebro and I'm sorry I sort of explained it away to myself.
He has never been a friend to women.
And this is beside the point but he rather masquerades as someone who's worn a path between his Barking bedsit and the barricades when irl he lives in a gated cliffside mansion surrounded by world class seaside views and within a short, beautiful ramble of two fabulous hipster restaurants.

Thelikelylass · 18/11/2021 18:34

I noticed he retweeted this:

Billy Bragg Retweeted

MenandBoysCoalition
@MBCoalition
·
13 Nov
Did you know men are:

75% of suicides?
76% of premature deaths from heart disease?
61% more likely to die from COVID?

Join is at 2pm on Weds 17.11 for a webinar on why we need a Men's Health Strategy:

tinyurl.com/y5cy88k8

Let’s #LevelUpMensHealth

#InternationalMensDay

So, what is it to be then oh Bard of Barking (mad)?

KittenKong · 18/11/2021 19:18

So he knows what a man is? Or has no one pointed ‘the obvious’ out to him...

GlomOfNit · 18/11/2021 19:48

They were utterly shite lyrics to start with - he's not exactly Dylan, is he? - patronising and to my ears, a bit grudging (I'm sure that's not how he meant them to sound, but...) but the new ones ... Grin Absolutely bloody terrible and they don't even scan/rhyme. Sounds like a desperate wokey teenager trying to be earnest in music class.

I am ever so, ever so weary of Mr Bragg's continuing journey to be worthier-than-thou.

GlomOfNit · 18/11/2021 19:53

crispinglovershighkick ha yes! Grin I've often sat at one of those trendy cafes and looked up towards his big white house and thought - well actually, thought 'good on him, he works fairly hard for it, politically active etc' but that was a decade or so ago when his wokeybro-ness hadn't really dawned on me.

Those cliffs though. Terribly unstable these days, major cliff falls nearly every year now. I wouldn't want to live there...

crispinglovershighkick · 18/11/2021 23:40

GlomOfNit Grin Grin Grin

DottyHarmer · 19/11/2021 09:03

He has now sold that house for over £3m, I see, having banked £2m in profit. He threatened to refuse to pay income tax until bankers’ bonuses were capped.

I wonder why he didn’t gift the house to a worthy cause…. eg a trans refuge…. Surely a humble man like Billy doesn’t need all those millions Hmm

Ducksareruiningmypatio · 22/11/2021 09:58

I FINALLY GOT RID OF THE TICKETS!!
Woohoo!! Grin

FindTheTruth · 25/11/2021 05:25

Ducks you must be relieved!

Thelikelylass Bard of Barking (mad)? Grin. so he knows what sex is when it comes to men?

I see Bragg is on top form retweeting that awful New Statesman tweet

thread about that tweet here
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4410125-The-New-Statesman-and-The-Guardian

Billy Bragg and new lyric to sexuality.
Meagaidh · 25/11/2021 07:14

He's not the only lefty guy who's spouting self-righteously about transphobes - the community that could once be relied on to support women. This is one of the many troubling aspects of the infiltration of men's (and some women's) brains by SW and its ilk.

Oblomov21 · 26/11/2021 21:43

I saw him on the news tonight. I couldn't believe what drivel he was sprouting.

Saying Trans community needed supporting. And when questioned and asked about women and upsetting them about the feminine side of things he said yes these two camps needed to be reconciled and he believed it was all down to male violence and that was the main problem and if we could just reconcile, so that we could bring the two groups together.

I can't believe he's so stupid that he honestly thinks the main problem is male violence. Yes male violence is clearly A problem but if he honestly thinks that's the main problem then we've got nowhere left to go with him.

For an intelligent man surely he has read around the subject? It would appear not.

Bosky · 28/11/2021 06:58

I could do better lyrics than that Grin

Billy Brag wanted a shag, with a bootylicious daughter of Venus
But all he pulled was Izzard in drag, a gold lamé bag and a penis.

thirstyformore · 28/11/2021 07:26

Just read the Nee Statesmen article. Interesting that there wasn't a single mention of trans men. Wonder why Hmm

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