Woman's Hour now: BBC walking away from Stonewall

[nauticant]

Emma Barnett is asking the questions.

Emma is magnificent.

He’s sounds really angry now. Does anyone get the feeling he’s going to flounce out as soon as his mike is off?

She's brilliant. I wouldn't trust him to make the tea. He can't answer a straight answer. I don't even believe he's listened to the Nolan podcasts, the Ben Hunter issue was covered there, he doesn't seem to have a clue.

When she referenced someone at the BBC stating that a trans woman was a biological male ,did she mean Dame Jeni?

EB: "Stonewall have said pulling out of the scheme means LGBTQ+ people suffer. What have you got to say to the 2% of the staff of the BBC who identify as trans."

'Our involvement in Stonewall has never compromised our editorial output'

AND ALSO

'We need to leave the scheme because our involvement with Stonewall might compromise our editorial output.'

He genuinely expects us to believe this absolutely hasn't happened thus far but they're just suddenly aware that it might in the future.

It’s plausible deniability, no? I can’t possibly comment on that I haven’t heard it.

Emma is brilliant on this. Well done!

The waffly dissembler was:

www.bbc.co.uk/aboutthebbc/whoweare/rhodri-talfan-davies

Emma Barnett on fire. Fantastic.

It's Rhodri Talfan Davies, sits on the executive committee something something

You know I didn’t even think of that… but she’s wondered if the programme would have to change its name… to People Hour ?

Huzzah! I put the radio on while I was hanging laundry (WFH) and have just come here to see if there's a thread.

EM is brilliant. It's taken me a while to warm to her, but now I think she's fabulous.

Using his full name and title so we know who he is and that he hasn’t got a clue.

[quote nauticant]The waffly dissembler was:

www.bbc.co.uk/aboutthebbc/whoweare/rhodri-talfan-davies[/quote]
He drew the short straw, didn't he?

Crosspost - preferred your waffly dissembler description

Every time Stonewall release a statement on this they reveal themselves to be more malignant and deceitful. How anyone could left thinking they offer sound and sensible advice I fail to see.

Huh, I better listen this evening.

Emma was magnificent, I liked the slight nod to others who’ve sat in the chair ie. Jane & Jenni

Actually feeling more than a little teary.

'Emma: Can you say with confidence that the BBC hasn't be lobbied by Stonewall... compromised?'

A quick bit of positive feedback going off to the BBC about that piece - and EB's fierce tenacity in seeking straight answers.

Thank you Rhodri Talfan Davies for agreeing to be the first BBC executive to be interviewed about the BBC's relationship with Stonewall. Even though you didn't answer most of the pointed questions... it is at least start and I appreciate the emphasis on impartiality.

I'm listening to it now, and EB is magnificent. Magnificent. Whole seconds of radio silence while waffly dissembler tries to think of an answer to a straight question.

I re-read the full BBC statement yesterday, and it was trying it's absolute damnedest to say we are totally impartial, of course, but people might think we aren't, and as it's all about people's perception, we have to leave stonewall. You know, just in case it looks bad, even though we're not bad.

So it's really good that Emma is putting that alleged impartiality to the test. Cos we all know it's bollocks.

There are 400 trans people working at the BBC, so I imagine there is a massive internal schism going on at the moment.

Emma is brave. I wouldn't want be in the BBC cafe having a latte after that.

My suggestion about positive feedback: refer approvingly to the BBC reemphasising impartiality and ask whether the Nolan podcast can be reformatted into a programme to be broadcast on Radio 4.