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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Girls night in Campaign targeted for not being inclusive

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Theeyeballsinthesky · 23/10/2021 06:54

A group of young women started a campaign to boycott night clubs in the wake of drinks being spiked & women being attacked

The outcome was of course predictable, because heaven forbid women have something of their own

I am apoplectic with rage on behalf of these young women. Only yesterday there were a ton of reports on young womens poor mental health. Do they really not join the fucking dots

twitter.com/findingdore/status/1451643838318190598?s=21

Girls night in Campaign targeted for not being inclusive
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Deliriumoftheendless · 23/10/2021 09:02

I mean, anyone can support a boycott of pubs and clubs. But it is women and girls being targeted here and that needs to be acknowledged. Not “this doesn’t apply to us but we want special mentions”.

As someone else has said there’s nothing stopping another group setting up their own campaign. If trans/nbs want a boycott due to violence/drink spiking etc go for it. Plenty will join in. But it’s easier to piss all over someone else’s efforts that be arsed to do it yourself.

The anti-carceral bullshit buzzwords are dangerous. I doubt for a second anyone popping that in their statement has thought through the end result of sexual assault not being a police matter. I’d like to see them challenged on this. What do you think should happen to men who spike drinks and assault women? Throw them out? Passing the problem to another venue. Vigilante justice? Behave. Read a blog post non why it’s super harmful to behave like that? Effective. Not.

There’s many issues with the police but the solution is never “don’t punish sex offenders” ffs.

merrymouse · 23/10/2021 09:03

In the second wave women could point to misogynistic behaviour and say “this is totally unacceptable” and demand it to be criminalised.

But there were still lots of people laughing at dungaree wearing, bra burners women's libbers, and many women felt it necessary to distance themselves from feminism.

The difference now is that feminism has been rebranded as an inclusive slogan on a t-shirt, and younger MRAs claim to be progressive. However, the central dynamic hasn't changed.

You could argue that left wing parties have abandoned women's rights, but that would imply that there was a period when they centred them.

I wonder if the students know how much they sound like people from a Malcolm Bradbury novel?

maya71 · 23/10/2021 09:04

Surely the point is that it's girls and women who have had their drinks spiked so are boycotting nightclubs? I haven't seen anyone who isnt a girl I woman talking about it. If anyone else wants to be supportive of girls and women, they could join in. If any other groups are being threatened they can start their own groups.

SolasAnla · 23/10/2021 09:15

Did we changed our mission statement enough???

#Inclusive of all races equally
#Exclusive of prejudice against women all people equally
#Inclusive of sex based gender roles in society
#Inclusive of homosexual people and bisexual people and transgender people and other people too
#Inclusive of transgender people
#Inclusive of disabled people
#Inclusive of all people who involved in the sex trade including people who own sex slaves and profit off their rape
#Inclusive of all people who have been in prison including people who have committed rape and/or murder of women/men they met on a night out
#Inclusive of all people anywhere in the world who form groups to advance their common objective irrespective of their stated aims ...

MiladyBerserko · 23/10/2021 09:19

Oh sorry, didn't see this one, I just started a thread too. Will ask to delete

Mummyoflittledragon · 23/10/2021 09:21

These poor poor (young?) women being punished for wrong speak. Ffs. There is no critical thinking going on.

Now the ‘x town night in’ will be a group of people. What happens if some are there for nefarious purposes? This will be a captive and compliant group in a private accommodation instead of in a public place. Just imagining the scenario, everyone’s drinks spiked by the infiltrator, who then proposes raising a glass to staying safe. Sad

@Ereshkigalangcleg

I can’t even read the critical article right now. I’m not strong enough. But thank you for posting.

mustlovegin · 23/10/2021 09:21

Some groups clash Solas

Also, what does this mean?

Inclusive of all people anywhere in the world who form groups to advance their common objective irrespective of their stated aims

mustlovegin · 23/10/2021 09:22

This is all waffle, would you support any stated aim?

GoodieMoomin · 23/10/2021 09:26

The more I think about this the more pissed off I get.

If twaw are we're always told, then surely the girls' night in would include them already? So actually the gender identity theorists (GITs) are telling us that they don't actually believe twaw Hmm

allmywhat · 23/10/2021 09:35

If twaw are we're always told, then surely the girls' night in would include them already?

They’re doing the usual thing they do when they want to destroy something for women: this excludes trans men and non-binary people. Maybe it even is the “trans men”behind it this time, although usually they’re used as a pretext.

I think the part where it’s dissolved into individual town organisations instead of a unified campaign is important. This was a power grab.

LonginesPrime · 23/10/2021 09:35

That's terrible, but a perfect example of where sex actually matters.

I'm not on Twitter but for anyone who is active on any social media, may I suggest promoting 'Girls Night In' while it still exists and before they've changed their name on all the student union websites, etc?

When people who know it as Girls Night In realise it has been charged to mean nothing, it will raise public awareness of the fact that these women's ability to talk about their own experiences and to highlight awareness about the dangers of being a woman around men is being prevented by the fact they can't even say that they are women any more. "Night in" makes it sound like the fact these women are women was merely incidental.

I get why non-binary people feel they're excluded by the word 'girl' but we've gone from being told "non-trans people have privilege" to being told "non-trans people have no specific characteristics which might mean they have differing needs from trans people". It's like women protesting a men's prostate cancer group on the basis of sexism. Men having make privilege doesn't negate the fact they have specific needs and issues too.

It did cross my mind whether using their campaign to highlight the issue of sex/gender is self-serving and might detract from their campaign, but this is the issue of sex/gender and whether they realise it or not, they're victims of silencing. They've been made to detract from their own campaign by the fact sex has been erased already, so I think that highlighting this could only help them.

They clearly don't feel able to stand up on the sex point as they risk losing their degrees in the same way we risk losing our jobs, so I feel a bit of responsibility to help them name their own oppression as this may be one of the first times they've come across this issue of being silenced and ostracised while trying to describe their experience, whereas I and other women with more life experience have been through this misogyny again and again.

I feel the same way about this as I do about prostitution- these young women are victims of the patriarchy as much as everyone else, and it's not their fault they can't see it, because that's precisely how the patriarchy works.

ScreamingMeMeSawUs · 23/10/2021 09:39

So we are now at the point where any initiatives on women's safety are being undermined and wrecked by gender identity extremists. Fucking brilliant.

IvyTwines2 · 23/10/2021 09:40

Limp and compliant with whatever these men want of them. It's like someone's slipped something into their drink.

FreshFreesias · 23/10/2021 09:40

It’s a man’s world.
This is sickening

IvyTwines2 · 23/10/2021 09:46

@ScreamingMeMeSawUs

So we are now at the point where any initiatives on women's safety are being undermined and wrecked by gender identity extremists. Fucking brilliant.
Their hate-name for us, T*, criticises us for knowing what a woman's boundaries are.
IvyTwines2 · 23/10/2021 09:53

One has to wonder about the motives of those who are so quick to sabotage any movement geared towards increasing women and girls' safety.

KittenKong · 23/10/2021 09:53

Folded like deckchairs, eh?

Yepnothatfeeling · 23/10/2021 09:57

Wow, didn't take long for the thought police to show up.

SpindelWhorl · 23/10/2021 10:03

@Stopsnowing

So girls can’t even have a night in now?
No nights in, no; and they can't have a night out either.

I think women and girls are situated by this left wing ideology as being somewhere in a liminal zone.

And that's because it's where the white male supremacy activists want us.

Helleofabore · 23/10/2021 10:05

Yepnothatfeeling

They got in before the groups even made any noise. But I think the chilling effect will be made aware of far and wide now.

KittenKong · 23/10/2021 10:08

The fact that they don’t even ‘get it’ shows they are just fools.

FindTheTruth · 23/10/2021 10:09

agree with many good points here. imo it's sex discrimination.

meanwhile, perhaps those on twitter could get it trending?

TWEET:
Emma Harriet Nicholson @Baroness_Nichol
Poor things;crushed at the very start of expressing their fears of assaults.This is pure,unadulterated Misogyny sheltering under Fake Inclusivity. Poor,poor girls.Their environment is against them from the start.#GirlsNightIn

Helleofabore · 23/10/2021 10:10

FindtheTruth

The Baroness has nailed it.

ArblemarchTFruitbat · 23/10/2021 10:14

I might be missing something, but how is 'Girls' Night In' exclusive of transpeople? Would transwomen not simply count themselves amongst the 'girls'?

LonginesPrime · 23/10/2021 10:15

The fact that they don’t even ‘get it’ shows they are just fools.

They're not fools, they're tools. Of the patriarchy.

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