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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Harrop MPTS Hearing

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 19/10/2021 16:18

I thought this may be of interest:

www.mpts-uk.org/hearings-and-decisions/medical-practitioners-tribunals/dr-adrian-harrop-nov-21

The tribunal will inquire into the allegation that from 10 May 2018 to 23 November 2019, Dr Harrop inappropriately used his Twitter account to post tweets that were offensive and/or insulting and/or inappropriate in nature and some of which were intended to intimidate.

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Datun · 15/11/2021 15:01

Intimidating women, doxxing women, telling them that unless they removed all their posts and got off Twitter, you would further intimidate them, is not 'using your platform for good'.

Datun · 15/11/2021 15:05

'I want you to apologise, delete your tweets and get off Twitter forever'. Or else.

The fact that he thought he could say this with impunity is breathtaking. He is unhinged.

Datun · 15/11/2021 15:07

GMC say that ‘doxxing A’ was motivated by his “differing views on the transgender debate.” GMC’s view is that “Harrop saw it as his job to try and silence those on the opposing side.”

Not his differing views, his misogyny. How many men did he go after? As opposed to women?

Hoardasurass · 15/11/2021 15:08

Omg he even tagged the gmc in his threatening tweets

Harrop MPTS Hearing
NeedsCharging · 15/11/2021 15:09

Harrop saw it as his job to try and silence those on the opposing side

He has/had a job as a GP.

ShinyHappyPoster · 15/11/2021 15:10

I thought it was unlikely he'd get struck off but I didn't realise just how arrogant he had been when he'd been disciplined previously.
Of course, he'll position himself as a martyr for the cause if he is struck off but the fact remains, female patients will be a bit safer and maybe women on Twitter too.
It is ridiculous that the GMC seems to be taking the threats more seriously than the police. As PPs have said hopefully this causes the police to reconsider how they handled these issues.

Datun · 15/11/2021 15:11

@Hoardasurass

Omg he even tagged the gmc in his threatening tweets
One of the people he bullied was an HCP. I hope the GMC are going to be held accountable too.
Signalbox · 15/11/2021 15:13

@RedDogsBeg

In 2018, Dr Harrop was on his Post Grad (Health Education England) the GMC received a number of complaints. The GMC asked his professor to discuss with him and remind him of his duties.

Harrop, as this point said the complainant was “transphobic” and he was “using his public platform for good.” Dr Harrop was reminded of guidance and warned further complaints would leave to a referral to GMC.

At a further meeting, Harrop said that he was “defending an important position.” Harrop had two written warnings. Further complaints received led to a referral in 2019 to GMC. Referrals were also made by a “number of other individuals.”

Oof, didn't learn then, arrogance personified.

Yes this isn't going to help his case is it?

Two written warnings! Clearly no insight.

This is not looking good for Harrop.

RedDogsBeg · 15/11/2021 15:15

Of course Twitter never removed any of his tweets such is the rank misogyny of Twitter.

I recall Harrop backed down once and apologised when a man called him out on what he was doing and, yes, he apologised to the man not the woman he was bullying.

BoreOfWhabylon · 15/11/2021 15:17

@Hoardasurass

Omg he even tagged the gmc in his threatening tweets
I think it was others responding to his tweets who tagged the GMC
MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 15/11/2021 15:17

The GMC are full Kool-Aid. I’m guessing they’re only acting because The Harrop brings the TRA cause into disrepute.

FindTheTruth · 15/11/2021 15:18

British Medical Association guidance the GMC is now referring to (2012). Issues of trolling, harassment and abuse is covered. ‘There is never any justification to be abusive’ even though there will be differences of opinion.

Core expectations from the previous documents stated will assist the GMC is their case.

In 2018, Dr Harrop was on his Post Grad (Health Education England) the GMC received a number of complaints. The GMC asked his professor to discuss with him and remind him of his duties.

Harrop, as this point said the complainant was “transphobic” and he was “using his public platform for good.” Dr Harrop was reminded of guidance and warned further complaints would leave to a referral to GMC.

At a further meeting, Harrop said that he was “defending an important position.” Harrop had two written warnings. Further complaints received led to a referral in 2019 to GMC. Referrals were also made by a “number of other individuals.”

General twitter conduct; offensive tweets and insulting individuals through replies for example. Referring to one particular tweet now. It’s a response and states ‘the conclusion is that you are just a bit cognitively impaired… and the anti- trans bigots will take care of you’

‘Give it another hour and your morning meds will have kicked in.’ GP is going through a few tweets and saying they were inappropriate.

‘Cispeople’ are generally just awful…. GMC says that he is referring to the majority of his patients and thus is “offensive and inappropriate.”
The Adrian Harrop Tribunal

Relating to twitter user A… ‘You’re the creepy stalker one’ and then goes on to publish user A’s full name. Tweeter A asks for name to be removed. Harrop responds, ‘I want you to apologise… delete your tweets and get off twitter forever.’

Harrop screenshots A’s employer and repeats real name. Harrop publicly revealed A’s real name on his public platform to his thousands of followers, 4,000 approx at the time.

He also calls tweeter A ‘a transphobic bigot’ and that she doesn’t deserve safety. GMC were tagged in tweets but did not make a response.

GMC say that ‘doxxing A’ was motivated by his “differing views on the transgender debate.” GMC’s view is that “Harrop saw it as his job to try and silence those on the opposing side.”

RD is now referring to a separate set of tweets, where he was chatting with tweeter C. ‘We should go on a little weekend away… ‘ C is on same side as Harrop and their twitter exchanges were used to ‘harass’ Tweeter B.

GMC say location references in tweets between Harrop and C were not out of chance, but a result of research into tweeter B, and there were “threatening undertones towards B.”

Tweeter B became aware of tweets sent to him. GMC say tweets were motivated by Harrop’s knowledge that tweeter B was the opposite side or the ‘transgender’ debate.

FindTheTruth · 15/11/2021 15:20

GMC say location references in tweets between Harrop and C were not out of chance, but a result of research into tweeter B, and there were “threatening undertones towards B.”

Yet again we are seeing TRA actions in the cold light of a court or tribunal. much needed clarity.

FindTheTruth · 15/11/2021 15:25

Tweeter B became aware of tweets sent to him. GMC say tweets were motivated by Harrop’s knowledge that tweeter B was the opposite side or the ‘transgender’ debate.

Moving on to tweeter D. GMC says this tweet made reference to a medical diagnosis, and Harrop should not have commented on the mental health of tweeter D.

Tweets by Harrop were again made because the individual was on the opposite side of the debate. GMC say the tweets were intimidating.

RedDogsBeg · 15/11/2021 15:28

Moving on to tweeter D. GMC says this tweet made reference to a medical diagnosis, and Harrop should not have commented on the mental health of tweeter D.

A Doctor is doing this, a Doctor fgs, how the hell he is going to justify this I do not know. His behaviour is abhorrent and has been for a long time, the GMC should have come down much harder much sooner.

Datun · 15/11/2021 15:29

Pronouns from the tribunal aside, how many of the people he harassed are men?

Datun · 15/11/2021 15:31

@RedDogsBeg

Moving on to tweeter D. GMC says this tweet made reference to a medical diagnosis, and Harrop should not have commented on the mental health of tweeter D.

A Doctor is doing this, a Doctor fgs, how the hell he is going to justify this I do not know. His behaviour is abhorrent and has been for a long time, the GMC should have come down much harder much sooner.

Agreed. And him using the term 'when your meds kick in' appears to be him using a massive part of his profession to sound like a glib insult.

Ugh.

I'd put this horrible little man out of my head. But all this rage and hate in one place is awful to watch.

WinterTrees · 15/11/2021 15:32

And all of these swaggeringly arrogant, threatening tweets were made before the Maya judgement significantly changed the landscape, in a time when Stonewall law was in the ascendent and women risked everything - reputation, livelihood, personal safety - by speaking out against the high church of genderists (Harrop self-appointed bishop thereof.)

It's appalling to see it all laid out in the cold light of day, but also a measure of how far we've come that it really does seem so chillingly extreme now. IIRC at the time it was loathsome but felt pretty predictable and unsurprising.

Personwithrage · 15/11/2021 15:32

Registered medical professionals are "required to uphold the public's perception of their profession at all times while registered." So not just at work, just always, because they are seen in a different way to others. How did this go so far?

The NHS has guidelines for anyone employed or associated with it re their online conduct. Again, how did this go on so long?

RedDogsBeg · 15/11/2021 15:32

Hmm, tricky question that Datun, I'll go for a round zero.

RedDogsBeg · 15/11/2021 15:37

@Personwithrage

Registered medical professionals are "required to uphold the public's perception of their profession at all times while registered." So not just at work, just always, because they are seen in a different way to others. How did this go so far?

The NHS has guidelines for anyone employed or associated with it re their online conduct. Again, how did this go on so long?

Well by any view Harrop has failed that requirement spectacularly.
1234comeonbabysayyouloveme · 15/11/2021 15:39

I really hope we get similar levels of detail when Garden Court and Stonewall are up next year.

lanadelgrey · 15/11/2021 15:40

All one can hope is that the local paper is reporting this too. His practice, unless he is a lone GP, won’t want him and presumably a lot of patients on his list will be dubious about him if he retains his certificate

Artichokeleaves · 15/11/2021 15:42

Tweets have just mentioned a Daily Mail journalist is there.

Artichokeleaves · 15/11/2021 15:43

sorry, Mail Online, not Daily Mail.

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