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Campaign of bullying and intimidation at Sussex University vs Professor Kathleen Stock

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Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 07/10/2021 09:36

Absolute disgrace. Posters on campus calling for her to be sacked. Academic colleague tweeting that he agrees with this. twitter.com/FrancescoFv37/status/1445727937660076032?t=-Di7mRf5sznFvvzww8UI2w&s=19 I saw a tweet saying there was a burning in effigy. Can't confirm this but nothing would surprise me now. Time for Sussex staff, students and alumni to put their heads over the parapet.

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ArabellaScott · 07/10/2021 19:39

@yourhairiswinterfire

Sussex Police say they're investigating.

Good. This is unacceptable, and it's time people were held to account for threatening, harassment and terrorism.
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Shewholovedthethebanhills · 07/10/2021 19:42

Why is nobody naming the other academic? I’m trying to work out who he is but can’t see his name anywhere?

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lateralblow · 07/10/2021 19:43

There was quite a delay between the initial furore and the uni's response.

My bet is that the Uni sought legal advice in the interim.

I remember a poster here a year or two ago saying what all this needs is a good dose of the law. I think that's what's happened and I think Maya has been instrumental. And I - if can dare to say it - I think this kind of pushback from the most rainbow university in the land demonstrates that in fact the tide may well have turned.

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ArabellaScott · 07/10/2021 19:50
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TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 07/10/2021 19:50

@Shewholovedthethebanhills

Why is nobody naming the other academic? I’m trying to work out who he is but can’t see his name anywhere?

You can see it in Anyabike’s tweets.
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Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 07/10/2021 19:52

He seems to have deleted that tweet, for all the good that will do. It's this guy: profiles.sussex.ac.uk/p312084-francesco-ventrella

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Jasmine11 · 07/10/2021 19:54

@Shewholovedthethebanhills

Why is nobody naming the other academic? I’m trying to work out who he is but can’t see his name anywhere?

His name is francesco ventrella, and he has deleted his inflammatory tweets and made his account private. But there are screenshots that people have posted on Twitter- I'll see if I can find some..
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Tidyhousefornow · 07/10/2021 19:57

This is live at 9 o'clock tonight

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alreadytaken · 07/10/2021 20:08

Not a sussex alumni - but I feel we all have a right to be interested in academic freedom and in violence against women. So I emailed anyway.

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Shewholovedthethebanhills · 07/10/2021 20:16

Thanks for the name - I sometimes sub work to academics from Sussex, hence the interest.

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ChattyLion · 07/10/2021 20:21

Just catching up, I’m so relieved Sussex have put out a proper statement and police involved. I hope they both take meaningful action within the law available to them. This intimidation of academics should be a day of absolute shame for Sussex.

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OldCrone · 07/10/2021 20:32

His name is francesco ventrella, and he has deleted his inflammatory tweets

Archived here:
archive.fo/IjfVr

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Manderleyagain · 07/10/2021 20:48

Kathleen stock replied to someone on twitter. She said that she had sat next to the beardy art historian at an event the other day. She'd obviously got nothing negative from him. So he is happy to publish on the Internet implying that she should lose her job (by saying he agrees with posters) but wont say it to her face. All professional courtesy in person but talks a big game on twitter. What a big brave beard.

Anyway, other than that I hope he now reads her book. He would have every right to criticise what she actually says, but not this.

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TabbyStar · 07/10/2021 20:59

I did a postgrad course at Sussex, which was fortunately full of normal people, but this "Your dad works for my dad" debacle was them too www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4334544/University-sports-day-descends-mass-brawl.html

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MadameKali · 07/10/2021 21:03

Well this just spurred me on to buy Material Girls.

Solidarity Dr Stock.

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FireFlyBoogaloo · 07/10/2021 21:14

I got into it a bit with someone on Twitter earlier about this issue. When I went to their timeline it was just absolutely chock full of male people - men and transwomen - screeching and wailing about mean, evil women with the audacity to object to men being allowed in women's spaces.

Imagine my shock.

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MildredsMoustache · 07/10/2021 21:23

Well this just spurred me on to buy Material Girls.

Ditto.

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lateralblow · 07/10/2021 21:30

I was waiting for Material Girls on Audible as my distracted ADHD brain can't cope with print but I've just checked and it's on there now. Purchased! Thanks Kathleen.

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OldCrone · 07/10/2021 21:37

What do you mean by 'a fragile view of femininity' @Antinerak? What does this have to do with feminism? Do you realise that despite the words being similar, feminism isn't about being 'feminine'?

Why do you think that abuse and name-calling is an appropriate way to talk to and about people you disagree with?

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Jaysmith71 · 07/10/2021 21:40

Aside from anything else, the diving headlong into someone else's area of expertise to explain how they've got it all wrong.

Maybe Kathleen Stock has a view on the Pre-Raphelites and all those nymphs?

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lateralblow · 07/10/2021 21:41

Hang on did a plopper just get deleted? The tide really has turned.

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foxgoosefinch · 07/10/2021 21:42

@lateralblow

Hang on did a plopper just get deleted? The tide really has turned.

And with a mn name that clearly is “anti Karen” / “antinerak”.

Not exactly a feminist of any kind, methinks.
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