NHS rainbow badge scheme

[WarriorN]

Just seen this:

As pointed out, where are the badges for people with learning disabilities?

Inclusion excluding people with real needs.

they're clearly supposed to be interpreted as pedestrian priority crossings so it's bloody stupid of the painters not to refer to the legislation and think about it

If they've got no markings at all, then presumably they're valid parking spaces?

There are rules about parking on crossings, but if this isn't a crossing, and presumably has no double-yellows...

One of the photos upthread appears to have double pink lines.

Isn't pink one of the colours which may appear greyish to people with some sorts of colour blindness?

Posie Parker posted a photo on her Twitter that has a police car with a rainbow on it and expressed her outrage.

Is this what feminism has come to?

Depends - what do you think the rainbow has come to mean?

Posie Parker isn't on Twitter.

Her outrage at what exactly margarita. Please be specific. Because otherwise it seems you are posting in very bad faith to discredit Posie Parker (and she is banned from twitter, so how do you know for certain that it is her).

I doubt she is outraged that the force has a policy of not discriminating against LGBT + staff, which is perhaps one meaning that can be construed from your post.

Posie Parker is not on Twitter nor does she regard herself as a feminist. Surely you agree she should be allowed to state her own identity, @MargaritaPie?

@KittenKong

Depends - what do you think the rainbow has come to mean?

The rainbow now signifies homophobia and disregard of the needs of women (particularly those of faith/culture whose lives are restricted by rainbow policies).

The rainbow now signifies homophobia and disregard of the needs of women (particularly those of faith/culture whose lives are restricted by rainbow policies).

This.

It states a strong political bias that is controversial to put it mildly and is not inclusive of all, with belief that those not obedient to its beliefs are not entitled to equal human rights.

YES I am deeply concerned at seeing this on police cars and on hospital workers and anyone else who should be doing their job without fear or favour and with absolute equality to all members of the public. I seriously can't understand anyone who wouldn't be.

Indeedy

@Artichokeleaves

The rainbow now signifies homophobia and disregard of the needs of women (particularly those of faith/culture whose lives are restricted by rainbow policies).

This.

It states a strong political bias that is controversial to put it mildly and is not inclusive of all, with belief that those not obedient to its beliefs are not entitled to equal human rights.

YES I am deeply concerned at seeing this on police cars and on hospital workers and anyone else who should be doing their job without fear or favour and with absolute equality to all members of the public. I seriously can't understand anyone who wouldn't be.

I don't disagree with you but I do think that the majority of NHS workers sporting rainbow stuff are not aware of this.

Feminism absolutely should be tackling anything which promotes an ideology that harms women, including police cars.

I went back from maternity leave last year. I'd lost my lanyard and badge and was given a rainbow ally one as a replacement. Every time I've tried to get the old style one back I've been told they don't have them anymore. We have to wear a work lanyard so I'm stuck wearing it. I have stuck a load of feminist badges all over it though. Needs must. 🤷🏼‍♀️

[quote andyoldlabour]www.sfh-tr.nhs.uk/news/2021/march-2021/first-nhs-rainbow-crossing-in-nottinghamshire-opens-at-sherwood-trust/

www.sath.nhs.uk/news/rainbow-pedestrian-crossings-unveiled-at-shropshires-two-acute-hospitals/

www.harrogateadvertiser.co.uk/health/new-rainbow-pride-crossings-unveiled-harrogate-district-hospital-3000441

www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/ipswich-hospital-rainbow-zebra-crossings-2880968

Not just hospitals, some on public roads.

metro.co.uk/2019/08/20/uks-first-lgbt-rainbow-road-crossing-unveiled-london-10603482/

www.itv.com/news/westcountry/2021-04-29/rainbow-road-crossings-to-be-painted-across-the-west-country-as-pride-festivals-return

People on another forum have picked up on this and highlighted the safety aspect.

forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/2383699/rainbow-pedestrian-crossings

Read the comments on this article

www.watfordobserver.co.uk/news/19441263.plans-two-rainbow-crossings-three-rivers-district/[/quote]
That forum is interesting. One person mentions slogans written on the road as well, which gave me a scare once. I was coming onto a road in the downtown, one that is visible from the fort at the middle of town, and Black Lives Matters had been written to be seen from the fort in huge letters. Of course, as a driver, I couldn't read them, all I could see was a lot of indecipherable paint in an area with a lot of traffic that I didn't drive in all that regularly. I just hoped it wasn't something I was supposed to understand.

Pride crossings now are ubiquitous here now, all year round, as well now trans crossings. Buses regularly have slogans about the latest identity related news item on the screens that announce the route names, along with the ones on the roads. It feels like all virtue signalling all the time.

I can't see if this has been linked on the thread?

More behind the person who used the t*rf word on twitter

grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/the-nhs-has-fallen

@BurnerName101

Ok. So i absolutely don’t what to out myself here, so quick name change.

I work in elf n safety type stuff (being deliberately vague) and have previously been asked to report on whether those rainbow crossings are a good idea.

I did a lot of very careful research, and concluded.. no they are the opposite of inclusive. Nightmare for the partially sighted, those with Parkinson’s, dementia, ASD…..

The rainbow paint has different grip characteristics, which is a worry, if you are jamming the brakes on to avoid someone. and yep, it is NOT in the traffic signs manual. Which means in theory I think you’d need permission off the government to do it.

I got a fair bit of pushback along the lines of. oooobut it’s niiiiice. I responded that I wasn’t prepared to stand up in court and defend a bloody non—Standard crossing if someone got hit. Big old killjoy that I am.

I suggested if they were so desperate, put a rainbow mural on a building, it a rainbow trail in the pedestrian area, but don’t fuck with highway safety.

Drivers are bad enough at stopping for black and white zebra crossings.

A pedestrian getting hit on a zebra crossing that has been rainbowed (so one that isn't light controlled) would be looking to sue the local highway authority for failing to comply with highway regulations.

At least someone has commissioned a review of the risks involved.

rmpartners.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/RMP-Risk-Control-Taking-Pride-in-Zebra-Crossings.pdf

The whole thing is very weird when you step back and think about it.

Yes, of course there are people who feel they have been judged or given poor care in relation to sexual orientation. But health, overall, has had a strong emphasis for a longer than many sectors on non-judgmental care. And of course in recent years like most places attitudes have changed a lot in the general public and that's widely reflected among health care practitioners.

Realistically, being gay is not a huge barrier to getting good health care compared to many other things. In fact there are lots of gays and lesbians who work in health - I am involved in a social group that's mostly healthcare workers and for whatever reason, a full two thirds of the men are gay, which is not reflective of the average but we aren't talking about an especially hostile environment.

I suspect that lots of other sectors are similar, I would certainly say it's true in my sector of the public service. In fact anyone who had any kinds of reservations would be crazy to even say something, even, "Oh, my religious group doesn't have SSM" because it could land them in hot water.

So why this now? What's it really all about?

Aye, and the driver would be done for manslaughter AND hate crime (assuming there would be skid marks).

@KittenKong

Aye, and the driver would be done for manslaughter AND hate crime (assuming there would be skid marks).

If you hit someone on a zebra crossing there would definitely be skid marks. Not necessarily on the road though.

Yup. Hate crime (and manslaughter).

dailycaller.com/2020/07/09/west-vancouver-canada-police-investigate-car-skid-marks-gay-lgbtq-pride-crosswalk/

My mistake sorry, it's Maya Forstartar who became outraged because a cop car had a rainbow on it, not Posie Parker.

Mary Onuoha is sueing Croydon General Hospital as she says she was bullied out of her job for wearing a cross. (She is a Christian.) Although I believe she is basing her case on religious grounds, I wonder, if she is unsuccessful, whether this will change any minds in the NHS about wearing identifiable symbols of belief.

@MargaritaPie

My mistake sorry, it's Maya Forstartar who became outraged because a cop car had a rainbow on it, not Posie Parker.

It's OK. People accustomed to your posts don't expect accuracy from your various interpretations of events.

@MargaritaPie

My mistake sorry, it's Maya Forstartar who became outraged because a cop car had a rainbow on it, not Posie Parker.

Yeah... one feminist is swappable for another to suit whatever agenda you are pushing today.

And why was Maya Forstater 'outraged' exactly?

Maya's tweet. I agree with her.
twitter.com/MForstater?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

And another, about the NHS rainbow scheme.
twitter.com/MForstater?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor