[quote timeisnotaline]@tibtom I’m not getting into whether women noticed or not, but there have been for years transwomen minding their own business. Who’ve had surgery and or change in cubicles, who don’t full frontal wave penises around or pay inappropriate attention to women in womens spaces. No one is arguing that and it is a shame they are caught in this mess of predatory men seeking to cancel all women’s rights. I won’t throw women under a bus to suit this group but that doesn’t mean I don’t have sympathy.[/quote]
I did have sympathy, but it's honestly starting to wane. Why are they not speaking out about this if they are also unhappy with how far the TRAs have pushed this? Why is it up to women to keep policing this. Keeping your head down and getting on with it isn't good enough anymore.
If there were groups demanding all this shit in my name and I disagreed I would be ranting and raving about it. But they don't seem to be doing that.
And yes, maybe some small number 'got away with it', but countless other times women and girls would have been too polite/ too uncomfortable/ too intimidated to say anything. That doesn't make it ok. That shouldn't be counted as a win for trans people (although they may have felt that they passed so it was ok).
They never asked others if they were ok with it. The fact remains they shouldn't be breaching this space in the first instance. They don't belong there.