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I think I've figured out why the Guilty Feminists feel guilty...

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vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 09/08/2021 15:19

@Glinner sent this round today:

"(From a thread by @Forwomenscot) The CEO of Edinburgh Rape Crisis has said "Sexual violence happens to bigoted people too. But if you bring beliefs that are discriminatory, expect to be challenged on your prejudice. Reframe your trauma" Apparently, survivors are to be "educated" in this service."

The CEO is Mridul Wadhwa, a male person who does not have a GRC and who believes that rape victims orgasm.

The podcast twitter account is blocking everyone who says "WTF?" etc

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cariadlet · 13/08/2021 10:02

@Ereshkigalangcleg

I do like to think about them all at the end of recording that episode of TGF, sitting around smugly and thinking "Well, that went well," waiting for the congratulations about how inclusive they are to roll in.

And having absolutely no idea that the shit was about to hit the fan.

I honestly don't think they are that self aware enough to realise that shit has hit the fan. We are all just bigots in need of re-education, to these people.

They definitely think that GC women are bigots and I'm sure that they dismiss what's happening on Twitter. But it seems to be getting covered pretty well by mainstream Scottish newspapers and is hitting a wider audience in Scotland. Still frustratingly little coverage in the rest of the UK.

FOJN · 13/08/2021 10:19

The Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre is now advertising for a COO. The "role requires an experienced and effective feminist leader" and they "especially welcome applications from... transwomen" yet "Only women need to apply for the above posts under... the Equality Act".

I've wondered about the legality of misrepresenting the EA 2010. However I think the ad is more strategic than that, I think it's intended to discourage applications from suitably qualified women who do not subscribe to gender religion, it's all part of the infiltrate and colonise strategy which will ultimately normalise 21st century misogyny under the progressive banner.

Who in their right mind would apply for a job there, it would be very lonely?

The CEO's comments have not been condemned by anyone with real political power, I interpret that as a tacit endorsement.

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 13/08/2021 11:19

I think the ad is more strategic than that, I think it's intended to discourage applications from suitably qualified women who do not subscribe to gender religion

Exactly. It's very clear signal.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/08/2021 11:24

MW is on record as saying "a man can't run a rape crisis centre". Gaslighting.

FindTheTruth · 13/08/2021 11:27

Wadwha sifted out potential volunteers who might raise concerns about the impact of gender identity ideology on women and effective rape counselling services.

This is scary. (It's happening in the political parties too)

Are there links to testimonies by the volunteers ousted by Wadwha?

YetAnotherSpartacus · 13/08/2021 11:28

I see MW's tweets (carefully curated) are back up.

Helleofabore · 13/08/2021 12:06

@Ereshkigalangcleg

MW is on record as saying "a man can't run a rape crisis centre". Gaslighting.
But obviously someone with the person of 'Louise' can. Don't you think.

I will plonk this here for 'context'. I posted it on the AIBU thread.

This is the transcript from the Buzz feed Provoke podcast that is dissected by Karen (linked on the other thread by Eresh, thank you )

It is MW's own words discussing their first call centre job.

In it they are not discussing how they were able to make women's (or men's) lives better, they were discussing power and how they attained it through the persona of "Louise".

At 5.12 in the You're Kiddin', Right video, MW says this.

"It was the first time I experienced power. It was a call centre job where we were the customer service for the benefit card that was being rolled out in the United States, in certain States. Where people who were receiving food stamps and cash benefits from the local state governments were now receiving it on an electronic card."

So they were transitioning from whatever system was there before to the electronic card. And I was responsible for whatever the person had phoned me about, you know I could do whatever they asked me to and I experienced this complete powerfulness. This idea that I was in charge and it wasn't me, it was Louise who was in charge. And this is how I discovered Louise."

"When I was shocked with fear about anything, I would call on Louise. And Louise could do whatever. So, in my most difficult moments I spoke as Louise. And Louise (the western woman's name they chose to convince Americans' they were also American') could do whatever. She could do anything. In my most difficult moments, I spoke as Louise. And Louise had a very Southern drawl. I have lost it. But I was very good at it."

"It was so racist as well, because most of my colleagues sounded Indian, no matter how hard they tried and whenever I came on the phone you could hear, um, (indistinguishable) who would say 'finally a white American'."

www.buzzsprout.com%2F1219151%2F4569950-provokecast-episode-1-mridul-wadhwa

justaftb · 13/08/2021 12:42

Have you seen this?

3 women's aid groups in North Lanarkshire had all their local authority funding removed because they would not admit men to refuges or work with perpetrators of abuse. The contract for domestic violence services now sits with SACRO instead.

MW's husband was a director of SARCO until last March.

twitter.com/VerdiMurray/status/1425946091749617672

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/08/2021 12:46

Wow.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 13/08/2021 12:51

fucking hell, just

isn't it good that so many journos and parliamentary researchers lurk on here?

Cos, this is exactly what needs to be in a government enquiry.

I do hope "someone" sends this thread to Baroness Nicholson's office.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/08/2021 13:46

MW's husband was a director of SARCO until last March.

I thought I remembered the name, here he is congratulating Deborah Frances-White on her thread after they had got flack for MW's comments on The Guilty Feminist podcast:

https://twitter.com/arungo1/status/1424471526309515265?s=20

justaftb · 13/08/2021 13:49

Just been covered on Glinner's substack:

grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/mridrul-wadha-sacro-and-the-14-million

Theeyeballsinthesky · 13/08/2021 13:58

@FOJN

The Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre is now advertising for a COO. The "role requires an experienced and effective feminist leader" and they "especially welcome applications from... transwomen" yet "Only women need to apply for the above posts under... the Equality Act".

I've wondered about the legality of misrepresenting the EA 2010. However I think the ad is more strategic than that, I think it's intended to discourage applications from suitably qualified women who do not subscribe to gender religion, it's all part of the infiltrate and colonise strategy which will ultimately normalise 21st century misogyny under the progressive banner.

Who in their right mind would apply for a job there, it would be very lonely?

The CEO's comments have not been condemned by anyone with real political power, I interpret that as a tacit endorsement.

Wait!! what??

So they are doubling down on their flouting of the law and they want the second most senior post in the org to also go to a male?? Because that’s exactly the signal that advert sends

Fucking hell

WarriorN · 13/08/2021 15:33

Fuckin ell just.

ifIwerenotanandroid · 13/08/2021 15:40

Another article, which includes some salary info at the end.

www.heraldscotland.com/politics/19511699.scottish-greens-defend-rape-centre-boss-mridul-wadhwa-bigoted-survivors-row/

R0wantrees · 13/08/2021 17:39

from Herald article linked above:

(extract)
"MSP Maggie Chapman said misinformation was being spread about the services which was “based on ignorance, bigotry and hatred”, made staff “targets for violence” and hurt “survivors most of all”.

However the statement failed to mention that Ms Chapman is currently listed at Companies House as being the secretary of Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre.

Nor does it mention that until June 30 she was its chief operating officer - effectively Wadhwa's deputy - although this is declared in her register of MSP interests.

In her statement, Ms Chapman merely said that she had worked in "a" rape crisis centre, but did not say that it was Edinburgh or that Wadhwa was her old boss.

The Greens' equalities and social justice spokesperson, Ms Chapman said: “The Scottish Greens stand in solidarity with Rape Crisis Scotland, Edinburgh Rape Crisis, survivors of gender-based violence, Mridul Wadhwa, and trans people across Scotland." (continues)

August 10th 2021 tweet (screenshot)
twitter.com/MaggieChapman/status/1425141485184376833

I think I've figured out why the Guilty Feminists feel guilty...
R0wantrees · 13/08/2021 17:41

Continued from article above:

"In her register of MSP interests, filed on June 8, Ms Chapman said: "I am the Chief Operating Officer of Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre, a charitable organisation supporting survivors of sexual violence.

"I receive between £25,001 and £30,000 per annum. I spend 28 hours per week in the role but have submitted my resignation and will be in post until 30 June 2021."

Blah1881 · 14/08/2021 07:54

Does anyone know where the herewegogc thread has gone? It was in AIBU and asked whether she was being unreasonable to object to being asked to ‘reframe my trauma’. It was a riveting thread with so much important information and I’m worried it has been deleted by moderators. It onto it’s second thread and had a vote attached.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/08/2021 08:08

It's still there, poll running at 95% YANBU

https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/amiibeingunreasonable/4321939-2nd-thread-AIBU-to-OBJECT-to-being-asked-to-reframe-my-trauma-by-Edinburgh-Rape-Crisis-CEO

Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/08/2021 08:09

First thread

AIBU to be asked to reframe my trauma by the trans CEO of Scottish Rape Crisis? http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/amiibeingunreasonable/4319777-AIBU-to-be-asked-to-reframe-my-trauma-by-the-trans-CEO-of-Scottish-Rape-Crisis

Enough4me · 15/08/2021 23:55

If I understand this correctly, Edinburgh rape crisis support for women, is likely to be completely run at the top level by men, who dont have womens' best interests in mind, but pretend to be women and are obsessed by womenhood.

Crazy woke lets cancel real women world we live in.

Helleofabore · 16/08/2021 04:42

Enough4me

Yes. How strange a time when this is even remotely acceptable?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/08/2021 07:35

That's about it, Enough4me

Tibtom · 16/08/2021 08:06

Run at the top level by men promoting the interests of other men.