Male abuser denied help because lover is non-gender, in the Times

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In Scotland, I'm not sure I understand it fully:
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/1cdfbfac-f63b-11eb-8f01-2c678acbb979?shareToken=8fa2365793d73c17f8778e876b8fa8ce

I honestly don’t know what kind of precedence this could set re: women’s safety. The problem is that it would be one thing if they had this program, as well as a custody sentence. But they use this program INSTEAD of a custody sentence. So now it’s, “Say you’re non-binary and your abuser will go to jail” OR “Say you’re female and your abuser will not go to jail, and gets to do this program instead.” I know there are women on some of the Mumsnet boards who wouldn’t blink twice at saying they were a teakettle if it meant putting their abuser in prison, and especially keeping him away from shared children, versus this program that helps the male abuser “build trust with social workers,” perhaps making it more likely he’ll get access to his children? Scary stuff if the abuser is ready to turn on the charm for social workers already.

How do we know the violent male in this scenario hasn’t forced : or coerced his female Partner into identifying as NB in order to evade prosecution???

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How do we know the violent male in this scenario hasn’t forced : or coerced his female Partner into identifying as NB in order to evade prosecution???

It isn't a means to evade prosecution (explained upthread) - it's an diversion from prison.

That is a very interesting input from DHAY In essence, they have decided that the thread is full of 'hate' and therefore all the posters need to be told how awful they are. However, had DHAY actually really read what was being said, then they would have realised that opinion was broadly in line with theirs.

DHAY stop coming from the belief that you have read on Twitter that this board is a horrible transphobic cesspit and actually read what is being said, the nuances behind the arguments may differ, but the outcome is the same.

@DHAY

The problem does not lie with which gender the couple identifies as, the problem is with a cis-gender, heterosexual system of which seems to be opposed to any other relationships that aren’t male/female. The comments on this section are utterly disgusting, have some respect for that person who is going through this, and have some respect for their identity. Try educating yourselves on gender. It’s not purely male/female, people don’t just fit into a check box that society puts them in. It can be extremely damaging for people to read such ignorant and naive, immature comments.

This is such an ignorant post. Domestic violence services aren't something you can set up with good intentions; organisations need to be trained and well informed.

There is so much specialist knowledge that good organisations specialise. They don't set up all inclusive services, and they don't mix victims and perps.

No one is discriminating against the victim. They don't identify as a woman, and so the training given to their violent partner wont be suitable for their case.