Posie on Talk Radio this evening

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KJK was on Talk radio yesterday (starts at 53.40 on this clip) and the host (Kevin O'Sullivan)was really pushing her on pronouns for Laurel Hubbard, which KJ was not budging on. (I was already cross with the him for repeatedly saying Transwomen and cis women leading in to the segment!)

KJK has put on Facebook that she is back on this evening - it would appear that Kevin O'Sullivan has found someone from the trans side to have a live debate with KJK (don't know who, though, or if they are an ally or a TRA or a regular TW). Also, there is not a time given on the Standing for Women page, and annoyingly, I will be out this evening, so won't be able to to listen live.

I'd not seen it mentioned here yet, but thought it might make for an interesting listen.

re post above:
4th Wave Now via Twitter

"1. Latest leak from our source in the affirming parents Facebook group: Dr. Beverly Fischer in Baltimore, MD is offering a $750 discount on double mastectomies if booked during Pride month, according to this mother.

1. This special promotional offer is corroborated by Dr. Fischer’s own June 7 tweet.

1. ...as well as by Dr. Fischer’s surgery practice Facebook page, Advanced Center for Plastic Surgery. "DrBevsBoys" ?

1. Not everyone in this affirmative-parent FB group thinks a 12-year-old has the wherewithal to make the decision to have both breasts removed, but the original poster and supporters beg to differ. "This is harmful content.

1. Dr. Fischer's professional website promotes the Tumblr page they run. "If you had top surgery with Dr. Fischer, tag photos of your chest."

1. We know who's on Tumblr. It's not (for the most part) adults. Fischer's Tumblr site is "DrBevsBoys". But (besides the original poster in Tweet 1 in this thread and her 12-yr-old) does Fischer do double mastectomies on other tweens/teens?

drbevsboys.tumblr.com

1. On the ask_Transgender Reddit, users promote Dr. Fischer as someone who does surgeries on 14-year-olds. (And they got this right: "There are no rules or laws in the US about transition.")

1. More from the affirming parent FB group. 14-yr-olds. Fischer is a star.

(see screenshot)

If there is social contagion influencing gender-dysphoric teens, there is anotherperhaps even more powerfulsocial contagion affecting parents. It's on full display in this Facebook forum."

twitter.com/4th_WaveNow/status/1232162688500826112
twitter.com/4th_WaveNow/status/1142552285962231809

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KJK mentioned 12-year-olds in the US having double mastectomies.

I am aware that such surgery has been performed on 13-year-olds over there (not legal in the UK, I believe). Does anyone know the source for the 12-year-olds? The trouble is, people will dismiss Kellie's statement out of hand because it sounds so preposterous, even if it is true.

It would be handy to know a few more of the details.

On the SFW facebook page

A different take on why people need golden bridges from an anti-vaxxer perspective and using what is known about perpetrating cons/fraud:

Goffman observed that all “marks” eventually come to understand that they have been defrauded. But strangely, they almost never complain or report the crime to the authorities. Why? Because, Goffman argues, admitting that you have been conned is so deeply shameful that “marks” experience it as a kind of social death – the painful end of one of the many social roles we all play.
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Within those groups, we can pinpoint influential members who may be turning their backs on Covid denialism, and encourage them in their journey. We can message them offering support, particularly if our reference groups overlap – whether that means sharing the same home town, or practising the same faith. The more shared social space, the better. We might offer to back them up if they get trolled for expressing misgivings about Covid denialism. Or we could let them know that we would admire them for telling the truth.

Those people may not have a television audience of millions, but they nonetheless have the potential to act as “coolers” for those in their reference groups – both online and off. The higher their status within the groups, the more influence they will have in reconciling their fellow travellers to the reality of the pandemic, perhaps enabling them to rejoin society, or at least preventing them from endangering the rest of us.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/aug/09/convince-anti-vaxxers

archive of article: archive.is/1JAfS

I've no idea how the above is possible if SM platforms keep banning some people because this reduces interaction. And, much as I think the ability to block and mute is much needed (especially by women) it does facilitate being in a bubble - which is why those crossover coolers are so necessary.

If OJ doesn't want a golden bridge, this doesn't mean that one shouldn't be available both to him and his followers - especially if the latter were well positioned to act as "coolers".