Game on: Sajid Javid bites

[TheFleegleHasLanded]

After years (I’m not exaggerating) of women writing to the Department of Health, the new minister has at least, and at last, acknowledged there is a problem. It’s a sliver of hope. Keep the pressure up!
twitter.com/sajidjavid/status/1422623414196576256?s=21

Ohhh! Finally, an admission that yes this should be looked at.

Seems like baby steps at least.

Well, wait and see.

(will write to MP)

He needs advice before deciding that male born rapists and paedophiles shouldn't be placed in women's wards?? He is incapable of working it out by himself that it's dangerous for women?

Completely clueless - or scared of the trans zealots.

www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-9857821/amp/BARONESS-NICHOLSON-fear-sanctity-single-sex-wards-threat-trans-rights.html

Emma has written a stonker of an article and puts the pressure on him too.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/08/03/health-secretary-intervenes-nhs-issues-guidance-transgender/

"It comes as The Telegraph can reveal that NHS England has told hospitals to allow children to self-identify their gender, even if they are not deemed competent and their parents disagree."

@MrsOvertonsWindow

He needs advice before deciding that male born rapists and paedophiles shouldn't be placed in women's wards?? He is incapable of working it out by himself that it's dangerous for women?

Completely clueless - or scared of the trans zealots.

I know it might seem obvious to us, but politically this is massive that he even admits there might be a problem.

Current threads with useful evidence to include in letters to MPs, Ministers, Lords, NHS Trusts etc. Please write!

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4313163-never-thought-i-d-post-on-here-but-males-on-female-hospital-wards-wtf

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4313090-Telegraph-Patient-safety-fears-as-NHS-allows-trans-sex-offenders-in-female-only-wards

Baroness N is a badass

I hope someone has sent him a copy of Helen Joyce's book.

Arguably the Tories started the UK’s descent into craziness with the self ID proposals but that was a couple of prime ministers ago now, and the Tories will be needing electoral capital to go into the next UK general election in two or three years’ time. What better strategy than to make Labour/Lib Dems (and SNP for that matter) fight the election on the platform that men should be on women’s wards and in women’s prisons. It’s such an open goal.

The Guardian will whine about a “culture war” but that won’t actually matter because the vast majority of the electorate know that men aren’t women even if they grow long hair and do head tilts.

How tragic is it that a politician agreeing that women should have rights is novel and unusual?

This is where we are. The current accepted response to any question about women s rights is to accuse the person asking of bigotry and threaten their job/life/safety.

By acknowledging women exist, Sajid Javid is running the risk of being accused of stepping onto the wrong side of history.

@MidsomerMurmurs

Arguably the Tories started the UK’s descent into craziness with the self ID proposals but that was a couple of prime ministers ago now, and the Tories will be needing electoral capital to go into the next UK general election in two or three years’ time. What better strategy than to make Labour/Lib Dems (and SNP for that matter) fight the election on the platform that men should be on women’s wards and in women’s prisons. It’s such an open goal.

The Guardian will whine about a “culture war” but that won’t actually matter because the vast majority of the electorate know that men aren’t women even if they grow long hair and do head tilts.

I agree. It really is an open goal. No-one agrees with men in women's sport and rapists in women's prisons and hospital wards.

Any party who asks the same questions of their opposition that we do - what is a woman, the Staniland question, etc, will achieve an instant slam dunk.

@ArabellaScott

How tragic is it that a politician agreeing that women should have rights is novel and unusual?

This is where we are. The current accepted response to any question about women s rights is to accuse the person asking of bigotry and threaten their job/life/safety.

By acknowledging women exist, Sajid Javid is running the risk of being accused of stepping onto the wrong side of history.

Bonkers, isn’t it? We’ve actually got to the point where people say the phrase “sex based rights” is a transphobic dog whistle. I used to ask the question “is there any way to discuss women’s rights that isn’t transphobic”, but I don’t bother as much now because the answer is “no”.

Your move, Sajid.

Any mention of suffragettes, any mention of biological sex, of women's rights, of women at all, is now considered beyond the pale, transphobic, dog whistle, non-inclusive.

Is it clear enough yet what is happening?

@ArabellaScott

Any mention of suffragettes, any mention of biological sex, of women's rights, of women at all, is now considered beyond the pale, transphobic, dog whistle, non-inclusive.

Is it clear enough yet what is happening?

Yes, I honestly don't see how we are going to get anywhere while sex and gender are constantly conflated and we are not permitted to say that trans women are not women. It's insane.

Greer was right - that women have no idea how much men hate them.

Yes, I honestly don't see how we are going to get anywhere while sex and gender are constantly conflated and we are not permitted to say that trans women are not women. It's insane.

The sex class has been dismantled. It's now effectively not permitted to make any differentiation between male and female. That's the direct (and logical) result of 'TWAW'.

I don't think he understands the impact of harassment;

''Javid rejects MPs' calls for exclusion zones at all abortion clinics
Home secretary says protest ban not ‘proportionate’ despite harassment outside centres''
www.theguardian.com/world/2018/sep/13/sajid-javid-rejects-call-exclusion-zones-outside-abortion-clinics-england-wales

@vivariumvivariumsvivaria

Baroness N is a badass

She doesn't seem keen on that term; shame, other peers liked it 'I am a parliamentarian', well, yes but crikey can we not have a bit of humour?

Baroness Nicholson isn't a fan of swearing on Twitter, so I'd imagine that term is also annoying for her.

www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/mixed-sex-accommodation/
Scroll down to Delivering Same Sex Accommodation , Sept 2019. Click and open this document, it's all there, 're letting trans people select the accommodation of their choice with reminders that presentation is no reliable guide to how that person identifies and more.

W T F.

@Wrongsideofhistorymyarse

Baroness Nicholson isn't a fan of swearing on Twitter, so I'd imagine that term is also annoying for her.

Yet she quote tweeted someone who used the term 'fuckwittery'?

That's unusual IsitM. She's blocked people I know for swearing.