#nothankyou

[notaclownfish]

Perfect response.
twitter.com/artofhunger75/status/1422592460438519809?s=19

'Failure to provide a variety of gender non-conforming girls with powerful female role models is one of the most unforgivable consequences of gender theory because it encourages girls to medicate gender variance. '

Well you can read it into it that they weren't interested in fawning over Hubbard, as it sounds like Emily was put on the spot in the same way in that interview. They would have been expected to show their support for "progressive" MTF trans inclusion in women's sport.

I wonder if they discussed it beforehand, knowing that question was bound to come up? I thought Emily's answer was diplomatic, nudging the focus back onto the IOC rules - maybe there was safety in numbers in the press conference?

The IOC have rules we all have to abide by. The only person’s performance that I can control is my one

Translation: them's the rules whether I like them or not.

Inference: I don't like them.

The British weightlifting lifting association & Emily herself are funded by sport England. Sport England are stonewalled to the eyeballs, a condition of being funded by sport England as an organisation is that you comply with sport England’s policies on LGBT inclusion which we’re drawn up in partnership with stonewall

TLDR any athlete not publicly toeing the sport England line would find themselves at risk of losing their funding

Bah pressed send too soon

Emily has said as much as she can say without getting herself in any trouble

I think they must have discussed it beforehand, otherwise we'd have seen them exchanging glances, and maybe one of them starting to speak then checking themselves to see if the others agreed etc. Admittedly I've only been able to watch it once (old and dodgy laptop) but it looked to me like a considered response. They will have expected the question, I'm sure.

Emily has said as much as she can say without getting herself in any trouble

I certainly read it that way. If she'd truly supported Hubbard she would have said so. She's been complimentary about some of her other competitors.

I’m not sure you can read too much into a refusal to comment. Emily has been supportive of Hubbard. Although she can obviously only speak for herself so perhaps the other contestants feel differently. And perhaps Emily would feel differently if Hubbard had prevented her from getting to the olympics in the first place.

That was a very lukewarm and carefully worded statement. Emily is an experienced athlete, she'll know that by the time she's 43 she won't be competative against women in their late teens or early 20's, she'll know her best competative days are well behind her. She'll know how impossible it would be for a woman to take a 15 year career break and come back as a weight lifter in her late 30's and sky rocket to becoming one of the best in the country. She'll also know how much hate women get for pointing out the bleeding obvious.

Her sillence when being asked the same question after she's won her medal says everything.

I was on an assertiveness course years ago and was told “no thank you” works well went turning down a cheeky request from a pushy person.

You’re acting as if they are offering you a gift rather than being demanding. You know they are not giving you a gift. They also know they are not, but replying as if offering to do you the favour changes the dynamic.

It can be a very useful phrase.

Fantastic to see it deployed here.

I knew Birdy Rose would have a shirt design soon @Catlover77 so I will be buying that one come payday. It'll go nicely with my Magdalen Berns 'I'd rather be rude than a fucking liar' shirt, also designed by her.

It was beautiful and, I feel, a very considered response.
Just an aside…Im new to Twitter and I know a lot of users use colours/emojis to project their identities/beliefs. What do the 💚🤍💜 mean? I see them a lot and Googled it but it wasn’t clear. Or am I just reading too much into coloured hearts?!

Those might be the Suffragette colours, iMombie.

Great article from Spectator Australia came up in my Google feed www.spectator.com.au/2021/08/laurel-hubbard-no-thank-you/

@cariadlet

Great article from Spectator Australia came up in my Google feed www.spectator.com.au/2021/08/laurel-hubbard-no-thank-you/

Linked upthread with archive version for anyone who needs access:

archive.is/Tmdbk

@iMombie I believe they are used to identify oneself as being a GC feminist, based on the suffrage colours. Although hopefully someone more knowledgeable than me can confirm

@ iMombie here's a good link that explains the history of the suffragette colours www.maharam.com/stories/rawsthorn_suffragette-colors

Sarah Robles has one hell of a tattoo - a suffragette holding up the Olympic Rings. It’s a cracker.

@sourdoughismyreligion

I’m not sure you can read too much into a refusal to comment. Emily has been supportive of Hubbard. Although she can obviously only speak for herself so perhaps the other contestants feel differently. And perhaps Emily would feel differently if Hubbard had prevented her from getting to the olympics in the first place.

That was a very lukewarm and carefully worded statement. Emily is an experienced athlete, she'll know that by the time she's 43 she won't be competative against women in their late teens or early 20's, she'll know her best competative days are well behind her. She'll know how impossible it would be for a woman to take a 15 year career break and come back as a weight lifter in her late 30's and sky rocket to becoming one of the best in the country. She'll also know how much hate women get for pointing out the bleeding obvious.

Her sillence when being asked the same question after she's won her medal says everything.

Yes I think you're right. I've just watched this interview and she very adeptly dodged the question...

I'm on the app on my phone which seems to be ridiculously slow today. Posts don't seem to come through until way after they've been posted so I didn't see the (many) references to the article until after I'd posted a link. 😕

Signalbox yeah that answer was great.

@iMombie

It was beautiful and, I feel, a very considered response. Just an aside…Im new to Twitter and I know a lot of users use colours/emojis to project their identities/beliefs. What do the 💚🤍💜 mean? I see them a lot and Googled it but it wasn’t clear. Or am I just reading too much into coloured hearts?!

The other symbol on GC Twitter is the Red square: 🟥 I believe it means no men in women’s spaces.

Loving Sarah’s tattoo!

Non-crime hate silence incident.

@KittenKong

Sarah Robles has one hell of a tattoo - a suffragette holding up the Olympic Rings. It’s a cracker.

Yes, it is. What a delight

Love that tattoo