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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Right which one of you left the keys in the internet?

84 replies

Gumbomambo · 10/07/2021 02:31

Who ever did it needs a long hard look in the mirror and to put the bottle down. Crikey I have never seen so many new user names with the same old stick to bring to the woman beating party. Tin hats on ladies.

OP posts:
LadyFuHao · 10/07/2021 02:34

Possibly related to the new naughty step?

Gumbomambo · 10/07/2021 02:41

It could be. It just seems to be very different since the boards got split. Like a brand new target got painted on us.

OP posts:
NonnyMouse1337 · 10/07/2021 07:16

What have we missed? Smile

TurquoiseBaubles · 10/07/2021 07:17

They are tag-teaming aren't they?

Judging by the posting times they are mostly in the US, I would think. Though a few may be just nocturnal (like many teenagers).

TurquoiseBaubles · 10/07/2021 07:18

Apologies for casually insulting teenagers Blush - most of the ones I know have better reasoning skills and are certainly much more polite.

picklemewalnuts · 10/07/2021 07:36

Can we get Jen to press the big red button, and have a night off?

TheElementsSong · 10/07/2021 07:38

@Gumbomambo

Who ever did it needs a long hard look in the mirror and to put the bottle down. Crikey I have never seen so many new user names with the same old stick to bring to the woman beating party. Tin hats on ladies.
GrinGrinGrin
Mibbiesaye · 10/07/2021 07:44

As a lurker, it has been very eye-opening. I have yet to see an actual argument or discussion from any of them. It is very noticeable that they are unwilling or unable to engage with the content and instead only post a derail or insult.

Igneococcus · 10/07/2021 07:59

I didn't even know there was a key.

OhHolyJesus · 10/07/2021 08:22

Has someone locked Twitter so they came here?

Shedbuilder · 10/07/2021 08:59

@Gumbomambo

Who ever did it needs a long hard look in the mirror and to put the bottle down. Crikey I have never seen so many new user names with the same old stick to bring to the woman beating party. Tin hats on ladies.
Glad I'm not the only one. I went on holiday for a few days, came back and hardly recognised any posters. And each thread I opened and read, if it was a GC OP there would be two or three trans-ally-type responses in the first six responses. The Girl Guides one is a classic: half a page of 'so what, nothing to do with you' before the OP got any support.

It's almost as if this was planned. Now there's a surprise. Mumsnet, you sold us down the river and we won't forget.

Waitwhat23 · 10/07/2021 09:04

@Shedbuilder I thought the same about the GG one. I've seen discussions about it before and there's usually a couple of 'you're being ridiculous - how it will affect you' comments from the usual suspects but generally the comments are mostly from mums worried about safeguarding at residential camps. That one was just incessant 'if you don't like it, don't let your daughter attend the camp, you transphobe' from new posters.

Curious that....

NonnyMouse1337 · 10/07/2021 09:41

Aren't schools off at the moment? Well they are in Scotland anyway. I suspect there's a correlation between an increase in annoying posters on these boards and school / university holidays.

Babdoc · 10/07/2021 09:53

I hope lots more of them turn up to display their ignorance, aggression, narcissism, science denial, poor grasp of logic and failure of critical thinking.
It all helps to show more and more women what this ideology really means for women’s rights. They are our best GC recruiting agents!

yourhairiswinterfire · 10/07/2021 09:53

They're doing it for Twatter. One derailed a thread and got it deleted the other day. Revealed on Twatter it was another one of those riveting 'experiments' where they report back to their follows to prove that women on a women's discussion board discuss things.

They're also screenshot baiting for a new ''article'' about the howwible bigots of Mumsnet, which I'm very looking forward to reading.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 10/07/2021 09:57

Maybe Justine will revisit the decision.

After all, having a single space where all the GC nastiness is distilled won't be a good look for all of those delicate advertisers.

we all told you so

WhatKatyDidNot · 10/07/2021 10:01

Maybe Justine will revisit the decision

LOL!

MishyJDI · 10/07/2021 10:12

The trouble with the old way, was that feminism topics about day to day patriachial issues and striving for advancement, were getting buried by the number of threads focused on fear of trans people.

So quality threads around womens advancement were just sidelined by obsessions over the possibility a transwoman could be in a toilet.

I think the new direction is quite helpful, as it splits the two and gives core womens advancement concerns its own space away from the constant anti trans stuff.

The Girl Guides one is a classic, that is revisited often. It's a classic fear campaign approach - target children and safeguarding. Trans kids are so concerned about fitting in, and just being kids. The leaders who take kids on camps know all about and are trained in safe guarding. Zero incidents cited. I mean, the thread itself was around someone's daughter thinking there may be a boy in their group. Again - just another fear campaign.

Girl guides is a fab organisation, and one I loved going through while growing up. I learnt so much, about empowerment of girls and women, and relying on one's self. I fully support that they continue this mission today in an inclusive environment.

And good on to mums net for silo-ing off the trans stuff from other womens rights issues to give them some breathing space and support.

Igmum · 10/07/2021 10:20

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ScreamingMeMe · 10/07/2021 10:24

This sort of stuff ways ramps up when we've had some success or some concerning stuff gets widespread coverage. I guess the WiSpa thing has rustled their jimmies recently.

God forbid they just bring some reasoned arguments and evidence into it.

AfternoonToffee · 10/07/2021 10:27

And good on to mums net for silo-ing off the trans stuff from other womens rights issues to give them some breathing space and support.

Why aren't they using this breathing space then? They wanted it, they have it, yet seems to be very little traffic. Posts had many more responses in the previous board.

SuffolkBargeWoman · 10/07/2021 10:28

@MishyJDI
I think you've misunderstood the concern about GG?

Sonarl · 10/07/2021 10:33

The siloing isn't working though is it? I see lots of trans related threads in the other one, and non trans threads in this one. Not to mention ones where it comes up but they started on the other one. Shows what a massive issue it is for women I suppose. Must be a right PITA to administer though, constantly moving threads back and forth.

IsItShining · 10/07/2021 10:34

The leaders who take kids on camps know all about and are trained in safe guarding. Zero incidents cited. I mean, the thread itself was around someone's daughter thinking there may be a boy in their group.

What is your real-life solution to such real-life situations, Mishy?

I've been in the precise situation of allowing my teenage daughter to share a tent with a transboy (with male name, but a child I knew to be female). This wasn't Guides but a situation between families who knew each other.

I had to mention to DH on a different occasion that classmate 'Emily' was male, and therefore usual male/female rather than girl/girl rules would apply to sleepovers should DD approach him and try to pull a fast one.

Nothing against either child but one combination carries a teen pregnancy risk that the other doesn't.

How are Guide leaders supposed to do that, or make sure parents are informed, unless they can divide by sex?

CuriousaboutSamphire · 10/07/2021 10:34

@WhatKatyDidNot

Maybe Justine will revisit the decision

LOL!

I did mean it to be sarcastic, but none of the scorethrough or italics seemed to work!

Never mind 😏

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