"Genital preferences" and 'conversion therapy'

[WarriorN]

Shared by Julie Bindel on twitter.

Coercing lesbians to "accept dick."

A tik tok video of a lesbian describing how she really thought hard about her genital preferences and "changed her mind."

twitter.com/bindelj/status/1411765863976476673?s=21

“gender preference is often rooted in unconscious transphobic beliefs “ yeah right. I stopped there.

It seems she spent time at a "camp" with many transwomen and was able to separate the concepts of sex and gender.

Sick isn't it.

An entire generation of young lesbians either being coerced into having sex with males, or if they won't, told they must be male themselves. Either way they are being used to push the mens sex rights agenda.

Collateral damage.

I'm concerned about all the camps for trans kids there are here and there in the U.K. Some run by mermaids, some other orgs.

A lot to unpack in her video. I feel very sad for lesbians.

Yes it's so horribly sad.

Any known young gay men being taught how to accept vagina?

Is this happening in the other direction?

Excellent video well worth watching

m.youtube.com/watch?v=QAMar22S0ck

Am I going to be capslocking again?

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST.

This is conversion therapy. A lesbian who is conditioned to disassociate her sexual orientation and her body to the extent that she 'accepts' that her sexual orientation is a bias, and then makes videos to try and coerce other lesbians to 'think about dick'?

I could show you reams of testimonies from women involved in Religious themed conversion therapy where they sat, joyfully recounting their freedom from homosexuality and how they found happiness in heterosexual marriage. I was one of these women. Bright, wholesome smile, all very cheery.

That's what conversion therapy is. It's suppressing your sexual orientation because you feel pressured by needing to conform to heterosexuality, be it via traditional marriage or to make the sad transwomen feel better because otherwise you're a bigot if you're a lesbian.

If one more fucking homophobic transactivist tells me this shit doesn't happen, and calls my sexual orientation a conditioned bias...? Jesus.

I mean seriously. In the face of this utter bullshit, how can anyone claim that society conditions women to reject penis? These fucking bastards are falling over themselves, pulling out all the stops to coerce lesbians to 'think about dick'.

Creepy, rapey shits.

It absolutely is Floral.

These poor girls.

The more it is referred to as a sexual 'preference' rather than an orientation, the more this crumbling of boundaries/conversion therapy will happen.

I bet the word preference has been sneaking into many forms.

I've been part of groups campaigning for a ban on conversion therapy, and I've seen voices raised against this kind of shit, and watched them slapped down with a demand to 'respect the trans struggle'.

They cannot have it both ways. Transactivism is homophobic to the very core.

Sexual orientation is not a 'preference'. It's protected in law.
(And even if something is a preference, like hair colour or body shape, no one is under any obligation whatsoever to question their sexual preferences. No means no.)

Off the back of that shitty fucking article by the woman in the het marriage claiming LGB people want kids to see kinky sex, I saw lots of really homophobic 'this is what happens when gays are made legal' stuff.

And connected to this video? Lots of 'see, no such thing as a lesbian, all women are at least Bi, they just need a cock to show them'.

I remember an evangelical church woman ask me, in complete earnest, 'Do lesbians really exist? Surely they're just confused?'
And apparently I'm the one in thrall to the evangelical right when I object to the coercion of lesbians to 'think about dick'

I really wish the likes of Mhairi Black would get her head around this stuff.

Black is a comfy little sell out egotist. She's cocky, and has had success while very young. It's no skin off her nose. Like so many things to do with being a woman, or specifically a lesbian, some people are very much three wise monkeys while it serves them.

Women are never allowed to say no to penis. It's the First Rule of the patriarchy.

“gender preference is often rooted in unconscious transphobic beliefs"

What?

How can she not realise she's making no sense whatsoever? How would "transphobia" make you gay or give you either a gender or a genital preference? There are both male and female trans people, and trans people with both male and female genitals, so that's not even possible.

Is it code for penises? and she actually means:
“lesbian sexual orientation is often rooted in not fancying penis"?

@ASpoonfulofDust

The more it is referred to as a sexual 'preference' rather than an orientation, the more this crumbling of boundaries/conversion therapy will happen.

I bet the word preference has been sneaking into many forms.

Absolutely. It's not a preference

Not only is this conversion therapy, it’s gaslighting and abusive.

Someone asked if gay men were being told to accent vagina. The answer is no.. of course not. Men are always safe from this nonsense. At least I’ve not heard of gay men being told to accept vagina.

This is the whole “cotton ceiling” thing lesbians have spoken about. It’s sad and terrible that lesbians can’t even be allowed to love who they want without being gaslit into being with men.

These people are Men’s Rights Activists. Women .. all women need to be accessible to men all the time. Being a lesbian isn’t allowed and not any excuse to not allow a penis inside of you.

This is utter nonsense.

I feel bad for this girl, it sounds like she's being abused in this commune and her naevity is being taken advantage of. Like others have said, she's being very evangelical about it, sounds like she's been brainwashed. Sounds like she's part of a cult and she's keen to believe in this Dogma because it diminishes her trauma if she can 'get over' dick (she mentioned being a victim of sexual abuse in one of her TikTok comments). I hope someone from outside the commune can make her see what's going on, but that will probably only happen after she breaks down. Tragic.

Undoubtedly. But let's not think she's an isolated example. It's not like lesbians haven't screaming bloody murder about this shit for some time and either been told 'it doesn't happen' or 'you can just say no, can't you?'

It is, it's just awful.

I'm not on Tiktok so no idea how it runs, but has anyone pointed it out or done a response video?

Yes it's happening to gay men. There was a transman entrant to the Gay World competition. A gay man, Sheridan Sinclair, who spoke out on Twitter was piled on and reported to his employers. He has an article out, possibly on Medium, that was very well written. I've also read threads where gay men have been tricked into having sex with transmen in saunas and weren't happy about it.

I suspect a lot of high profile gay men preach acceptance while privately wouldn't date trans men.

The way she speaks is strange isn't it. Like from the back of the throat
There is a word for it but I can't remember it. R4 did a programme a few years ago about the number of young women adopting this and I noticed my niece doing the same
The programme was interesting and noted that it was only young women
I'd love another listen if anyone remembers it

Vocal fry? Also known as creaky voice. I remember the programme.

Thanks