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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

"Genital preferences" and 'conversion therapy'

44 replies

WarriorN · 05/07/2021 12:18

Shared by Julie Bindel on twitter.

Coercing lesbians to "accept dick."

A tik tok video of a lesbian describing how she really thought hard about her genital preferences and "changed her mind."

twitter.com/bindelj/status/1411765863976476673?s=21

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WineAcademy · 06/07/2021 07:27

Men hate to be ignored. It enrages them. Lesbians don't just say no to men, they don't even consider men in their lives. We aren't anti-men, we are utterly and completely woman centred. And for that, we must be punished. This is what that punishment looks like.

Tibtom · 06/07/2021 07:35

What do you think the chances are or transwomen at this event also 'overcoming transphobia' to accept other transwomen as sexual partners? Strange how they are generally allowed to have a preference...

WarriorN · 06/07/2021 07:37

Yes I remember that. I remember when we all went to university in different parts of the country we all picked up an intonation where we went up at the end of sentences as if asking a question? It's a bonding thing apparently.

Iirc some recent research out recently looks at how at late teens and early 20's young people are at the most socially cohesive, wanting to create strong social structure and "fit in." Hit your 40s and you're the least likely to go along with the crowd!

Those men are exploiting that entirely for their own sick agendas.

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WarriorN · 06/07/2021 07:38

@WineAcademy

Men hate to be ignored. It enrages them. Lesbians don't just say no to men, they don't even consider men in their lives. We aren't anti-men, we are utterly and completely woman centred. And for that, we must be punished. This is what that punishment looks like.

Reminds me a bit of how June is forced to exult in her abuse on TV.

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WarriorN · 06/07/2021 07:39

Strange that Tibtom isn't it?

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Clymene · 06/07/2021 07:39

Anyone who doesn't think this movement is hugely regressive and deeply homophobic is fooling themselves

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 06/07/2021 07:52

Karen Davies and Christie Walker was more eye-opening about what is happening to young lesbians than I care to think:

Lots of pressure to have no boundaries at all.

Redapplewreath · 06/07/2021 08:03

''They resist the penis. The penis to them is the Devil. Anything having to do with penises, they unequivocally oppose, regardless of whether it is exclusionary or irrational.''

www.tgforum.com/wordpress/index.php/the-cotton-ceiling/

You may also want to try googling 'gatekeeping their vagina'.

Male entitlement to sex. End of. With massive homophobia.

BuffyFanForever · 06/07/2021 08:11

Shocking video! Some very well written comments here. It’s sad to see young lesbians being convinced that they must “get to know dick” to be a valid, happy and non-transphobic person. What utter nonsense. Of course lesbians would want women (in all senses) why should they get used to the idea of different genitals in the hope of making someone feel better? Lesbians can be friend with trans men and trans women without wanting to sleep with them. Sexualising lesbians as usual 🙄 makes me feel lucky that I’m not 19 right now!

ahagwearsapointybonnet · 06/07/2021 08:32

I kept thinking her voice sounded as though she was about to cry (or already crying) Sad

FloralBunting · 06/07/2021 09:48

She is clearly an abuse victim. And tbh, the video will compound that, and part of her coping strategy is clearly to signal her availability. I imagine the rapey comments she'll be getting in response are being rationalized as part of that. I recall the voices of 'respectable' men praising my story of leaving the 'homosexual lifestyle' and becoming a good wife and mother helped to tamp down my own cognitive dissonance well enough for a time.
Abuse victims often rationalize the fucking awful shit because we're trying to fend off the horror of people doing these things to us and being supported by others in the abuse.

But as I keep reiterating - she's the raw face of it. She the unsanitized version of what Mermaids, Stonewall, etc. are all doing.

Redapplewreath · 06/07/2021 15:05

@BuffyFanForever

Shocking video! Some very well written comments here. It’s sad to see young lesbians being convinced that they must “get to know dick” to be a valid, happy and non-transphobic person. What utter nonsense. Of course lesbians would want women (in all senses) why should they get used to the idea of different genitals in the hope of making someone feel better? Lesbians can be friend with trans men and trans women without wanting to sleep with them. Sexualising lesbians as usual 🙄 makes me feel lucky that I’m not 19 right now!
Let's be honest; it's asking a female person to validate a male person's gender identity with her body.

It's based on the good old pre recorded history view that the main purpose of female bodies is for the use of male people, and that female consent shouldn't really be a thing limiting male people from meeting their sexual needs.

Do look up too the quote about "lesbians selfishly prioritising their own orgasms' over the ability to make a TW happy.

Just let that sink in.

This frames sex as something that female people should not seek to enjoy - in fact it's immoral for them to want pleasure and consent. It's a social duty to provide male born people with.

Its utterly mindblowing that there are people this seriously misogynistic in the 21st century.

MarshmallowSwede · 12/07/2021 17:57

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MarshmallowSwede · 12/07/2021 17:58

You’re a woman*

Masdintle · 12/07/2021 18:02

Quite a lot love their penis and don't have dysphoria, it seems

aloris · 13/07/2021 15:14

tgforum link gives me a 404 message

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 13/07/2021 21:19

I’m sorry you went through that, FloralBunting. But you’ve come through it saner than ever. I hope others will see through the bullshit too.

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 13/07/2021 21:32

gender preference is often rooted in unconscious transphobic belief

This is a perfect example of the narcissism at the core of the trans lobby. They’re convinced that every opinion or decision must be somehow about them. They can’t accept that most people never give them a thought, least of all when looking at someone they fancy. That’s not transphobia welling up from people’s unconscious, it’s something far more primal!

SapphosRock · 13/07/2021 21:51

Every time I see videos like this I start singing that blurred lines song.

'I learned a lot of shit in the commune'

She's not wrong.

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