Transphobic hate crime

[ANewCreation]

primetimezone.com/world/im-trans-portuguese-young-man-assaulted-in-england-for-being-transsexual/

This is a violent, transphobic hate crime and I utterly condemn these men who attacked 21 year old Ruan Filipe in Bournemouth earlier this month.

*yeahbutnaw
What role do you think the constant anti-trans rhetoric of "gender critical" feminists played in this attack?

Have you washed the blood off your hands yet?*

Are you seriously this stupid or just maliciously misleading? The people that attack trans people are MEN. Violent men. And it is abhorrent. But just to be clear, said violent men aren't really the type to listen to GC/radical or any other kind of feminist. We are not responsible for the crimes of men.

It reads to me as if this was an attempted kidnapping, and attempted rape.

Very worrying that there is at least one group of men on the prowl in the Bournmouth area and it is not being highlighted in local press/news. The police should be putting out their descriptions (including car)

Bournemouth

What role do you think the constant anti-trans rhetoric of "gender critical" feminists played in this attack?

None. Stop framing women's rights as anti trans. It's innacurate and harmful to everyone. Think about that for once.
This is male violence. Women are not responsible for the violence of men.

Have you washed the blood off your hands yet?

Grow up.

Indeed.

It reads to me as if this was an attempted kidnapping, and attempted rape.

It does to me as well. Utterly horrific.

Yes no doubt these scumbags are ardent feminists.

I wonder this all the time about VAWG, but hoe do the police have time for stickers and Tweets but not for this?

I thought it was something to do with screwy incentives around targets and “hate crimes,” and crimes against women don’t count for that.

But this was a clear cut hate crime, that unlike most incidents recorded as “hate crimes” is an actual crime. Is it just that the police don’t care about violence against women no matter how they identify?

Is it just that the police don’t care about violence against women no matter how they identify?

I suspect that is the case. And not just the police. Hence why "sex" isn't a protected characteristic when it comes to hate crimes.

This is the original Publico article in Portuguese which has been put through Google translate for the one in the OP, which might explain some of the clunkiness:

www.publico.pt/2021/06/21/p3/noticia/trans-ruan-agredido-inglaterra-policia-desencorajou-queixa-portugues-1967384

Ruan says the attackers were wearing gloves - an odd detail even in this cool summer - which would seem to suggest a degree of premeditation?

Also: could all violent men please stop attacking women?

Apparently feminists have the power to make you listen to us. I’m not sure when that came about but it’s terrific news. Andrea Dworkin called for a rape truce a while back, how about you all do what she said? Thanks ever so much, violent men!

Maybe the transman understandably forgot to tell the police they were trans, so they just assumed it was a standard attack on a woman.

It is a very odd attack.

It appears like an premeditated kidnapping, that Ruan says only turned violent then they realised Ruan was trans.

The kidnappers were prepared enough to wear gloves and they also seemed to have been very careful not to permanently mark Ruans face with their knives.

Which makes it even odder that the police weren't interested - this doesn't seem like your usual random assault.

@yeahbutnaw

Anti-trans violence is an anti-trans problem.

Indeed it is yeahbutnaw.

What role do you think the constant anti-trans rhetoric of "gender critical" feminists played in this attack?
Have you washed the blood off your hands yet?

I'm not sure why the OP posted this in feminism as it appears to be a homophobic anti-trans crime so perhaps LGBT section would have been more appropriate.

Is yeahbutnaw the barrister Simon Cox or Jolyon Maugham? They seem to want to blame violence on women's words too.

Given that it was a premeditated attack / kidnapping Ruan was also very lucky to escape the group of men by biting one of them and running away.

Hopefully there will be CCTV at the supermarket they ran to that Amy be useful?

Wearing gloves and being armed makes it most likely that they were muggers who go around pulling knives on people regularly.
Not to diminish the fear that the victim felt or remaining traima, but nothing points to transphobia being the driver, though may well have been an aggravating factor.

@ANewCreation

This was first reported apparently in something called Publico, a Portuguese news source. And picked up by Pink news but I can't see it in any MSM yet.

Think it's described as an attack with 'knives and knives with blades' - maybe this is a translation of a Portuguese term - but I don't think a gun was involved.

It seems very likely that the story was picked up from his social media post, which was in Portuguese. It might take a while for it to trickle through into English language media, I guess.

this doesn't seem like your usual random assault.

No it doesn't, it's possible the attackers already knew the sex of their victim and Ruan's internal sense of identity was not a factor in what these men planned to do.

It's a serious crime, a premeditated physical attack with a sexual element, I don't understand why Ruan would drop the charges and have it reported online. If you were dropping charges wouldn't it be so you could forget about the whole thing? I do understand why victims don't want to press charges as the prospect of facing your attackers is too much for them, but why then go to the media when the police could be doing something to stop it happening again?

Ruan really should get some support to get the police to pay attention. I've had a look at the Dorset Police website www.dorset.police.uk/news-information/ and they seem fairly proactive in asking for information on what seem to be relatively minor crimes such as theft of a mountain bike. I find it shocking that they would fail to investigate what sounds like it may be an attempted kidnapping / attempted rape. Perhaps there was a language barrier? Either way I hope someone is able to assist Ruan on getting this taken seriously.

I feel quite indignant on behalf of Dorset Police. They would definitely have investigated this. The implication is that they don't care because it was a transphobic hate crime. I can categorically tell you that wouldn't be the case.

@ScreamingMeMe

I don't know if "not interested" is the right term then. Unable to take further, maybe?

How fucking awful for the victim.

I think a lot of clarity has been lost in translation. Stories of two separate attacks are mixed up and much of the article is based on auto translate of social media posts.

Not surprising this didn't make the national news, sadly attacks like this happen in every town , every night.

Not surprising this didn't make the national news, sadly attacks like this happen in every town , every night

I am amazed it didn't make the local news.

@Bryonyshcmyony

I feel quite indignant on behalf of Dorset Police. They would definitely have investigated this. The implication is that they don't care because it was a transphobic hate crime. I can categorically tell you that wouldn't be the case.

"This time, he went to the police, but ended up not filing a complaint: “The police said there was no point [where to pick up]. There are no cameras here, no one saw, no one heard because they stuck that in my mouth. In other words, it is a hopeless case”, he laments."

It sounds like Ruan did go to the police but the police said there was no CCTV (unlikely behind a supermarket) and no witnesses (surely they could ask, as Ruan was initially attacked outside their front door).

It does sound like the police simply couldn't be arsed.

@ItsAllGoingToBeFine

It is a very odd attack.

It appears like an premeditated kidnapping, that Ruan says only turned violent then they realised Ruan was trans.

The kidnappers were prepared enough to wear gloves and they also seemed to have been very careful not to permanently mark Ruans face with their knives.

Which makes it even odder that the police weren't interested - this doesn't seem like your usual random assault.

Hmmmmmmm

@Bryonyshcmyony

I feel quite indignant on behalf of Dorset Police. They would definitely have investigated this. The implication is that they don't care because it was a transphobic hate crime. I can categorically tell you that wouldn't be the case.

I agree.

Badly translated article from social media post has led to a lot of quite massive extrapolation about gang of kidnappers driving around Bournemouth with guns attempting to rape transmen. Perhaps that's the case but is rather a huge leap from what we know.

I wonder if Ruan had been offered an interpreter and been able to explain better police would have taken it more seriously. Also may have understood that taking no action doesn't mean ignored more likely to mean checking local for CCTV and aren't allocating detectives to this case.
I do hope if didn't have interpreter can make another statement with one assisting.