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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Transphobic hate crime

132 replies

ANewCreation · 25/06/2021 11:21

primetimezone.com/world/im-trans-portuguese-young-man-assaulted-in-england-for-being-transsexual/

This is a violent, transphobic hate crime and I utterly condemn these men who attacked 21 year old Ruan Filipe in Bournemouth earlier this month.

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AssassinatedBeauty · 25/06/2021 11:58

@ScreamingMeMe

I don't know if "not interested" is the right term then. Unable to take further, maybe?

How fucking awful for the victim.

I think sometimes the police can appear like it is "not interested" when it is actually "unable to take it further", probably due to being busy and also somewhat inured to these kinds of offences (assaults).

Once they have a crime number, they should be signposted to victim support at least.

TheElementsSong · 25/06/2021 11:59

@IAmAWomanNotACis

Just to point out the bloody obvious for the lurkers:

This is transphobia.

This is a violent attack.

This is Literal Violence.

This is an assault to a trans person's safety.

Women disagreeing with you about women's rights is not literal violence. Women voicing points of view that you do not agree with is not a threat to trans people's safety. Women widely reject and find abhorrent actual, literal violence against trans people.

Perfectly put and needs repeating!
NeedNewKnees · 25/06/2021 12:00

@yeahbutnaw

Anti-trans violence is an anti-trans problem.
Male violence is a male problem.

GC feminism isn’t anti-trans, no matter how often you try peddling that slur. It’s pro-women. You thing those violent bullies spend their evenings at Second Wave Book Groups discussing Sheila Jeffries?

It was a disgusting violent attack by transphobic thugs. Actual transphobia, rather than feminists who don’t believe in mantras.

SuperLoudPoppingAction · 25/06/2021 12:00

It should be treated more seriously than other assaults because of the hate element.
But even then it is hopefully going to be logged and aggregated unless the perpetrators can be identified.

334bu · 25/06/2021 12:00

A group of men ,already armed , approach a lone" male" individual to ask for "a light" and then attack them for being trans is horrific and beyond the pale. However, I wonder if this might not have started out as a deliberate homophobic attack which then turned into a transphobic attack as in the end there certainly seems to have been an attempt to rape this person.
The scenario definitely smacks of a group of young men out to do some "gay" bashing.

SirVixofVixHall · 25/06/2021 12:01

@yeahbutnaw

Anti-trans violence is an anti-trans problem.
Male violence is the problem.
Tesla73 · 25/06/2021 12:04

Methinks a certain someone isn't getting enough attention on Twitter so thought they'd come and disrupt the adults talking

ANewCreation · 25/06/2021 12:06

This was first reported apparently in something called Publico, a Portuguese news source. And picked up by Pink news but I can't see it in any MSM yet.

Think it's described as an attack with 'knives and knives with blades' - maybe this is a translation of a Portuguese term - but I don't think a gun was involved.

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Bryonyshcmyony · 25/06/2021 12:09

It's not in the Bournemouth Echo either which is odd.

RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 25/06/2021 12:09

Hopefully Ruan is ok and has support

Such a dreadful thing to happen

Blackopal · 25/06/2021 12:09

yeahbutnaw
Oh just fuck off, men's horrific violence is not the fault of women.

I am a 'GC feminist'. I have never hurt a soul, I have never said , or felt, anything hateful towards trans people.

Needing your own boundaries to be respected is not hate.

Mens violence is not women's fault but trying to make it appear so is hateful, imo. Same old shit.

Why are you not angry at the men who carried out this horrendous attack, or the lack of robust response from the police?
I expect coming on here to blame women is easier and gives you a warm feeling? Again, same old shit.

I hope Ruan is recovering well.

ScreamingMeMe · 25/06/2021 12:09

@Tesla73

Methinks a certain someone isn't getting enough attention on Twitter so thought they'd come and disrupt the adults talking
I do wish people wouldn't bite. Or quote their disgusting posts.
EyesOpening · 25/06/2021 12:10

I'm guessing though that MVAWG isn't the fault of all those TRAs who post pictures of guns and baseball bats and call for rape and murder.

Tuberoses · 25/06/2021 12:14

Shocking. Nobody should have to suffer violence for any reason.

IAmAWomanNotACis · 25/06/2021 12:17

"Anti-trans violence is an anti-trans problem."

That's a nice soundbyte but it doesn't stand up to even the lightest bit of scrutiny does it?

Gender critical feminism is skeptical about whether the best treatment for gender dysphoria is puberty blockers, cross sex hormones, sterilization and other invasive surgical procedures, and the erosion of women's rights. We are skeptical about if all people (specifically adult men) who claim to be trans actually have gender dysphoria. We are passionate about upholding women's rights.

What we're not doing:

  • Inciting violence, carrying out violence, or causing men to be violent. Violent men are doing that.
  • Posting rape and death threats to people who don't agree with our points of view, and trying to get them sacked. TRAs are doing that.
IAmAWomanNotACis · 25/06/2021 12:18

"I do wish people wouldn't bite. Or quote their disgusting posts."

It's a fair cop. Stepping away from the internet for a bit. Flowers

ErrolTheDragon · 25/06/2021 12:19

@yeahbutnaw

Anti-trans violence is an anti-trans problem.
Yes. Not a women's rights or feminism problem.
ScreamingMeMe · 25/06/2021 12:21

@IAmAWomanNotACis

"I do wish people wouldn't bite. Or quote their disgusting posts."

It's a fair cop. Stepping away from the internet for a bit. Flowers

Oh I know it's not easy. That first post was absolutely vile
Blackopal · 25/06/2021 12:23

I understand that without CCTV etc it is difficult to try to prosecute. However, what happened to investigating violent crime? What happened in the days before CCTV etc?

The police are supposed to protect, why is our enforcement so lethargic when it comes to crimes like this? Groups of armed men can attack people in this way and nothing can be done at all?

Jaxhog · 25/06/2021 12:28

This is terrible. The cynic in me would say that the police would have taken it far more seriously if it had been a transwoman.

I wondered this too. It's an appalling crime and the police lack of action appalling too.

(I do object to the use of the term 'trans-sexual' though. You can't change sex, only gender)

AssassinatedBeauty · 25/06/2021 12:30

Because they are massively underfunded, understaffed and riddled with having to make political policing decisions to please central govt and P&CCs.

Helleofabore · 25/06/2021 12:31

This is a horrific attack.

It is transphobic, but I think there is plenty of potential for Ryan to be have targeted for multiple reasons including rape. I hope that Ryan is ok and that they get the support they need and those responsible get a hefty punishment.

AfternoonToffee · 25/06/2021 12:35

What a horrific attack, I am very concerned that this will go the way of many others where nothing is done until it has escalated into the death of someone.

OhHolyJesus · 25/06/2021 12:38

I don't understand this, it is badly written:

"This was not the first time that Ruan had been the victim of a transphobia attack — it had already been in Portugal and England. This time, he went to the police, but ended up not pressing charges."

So one attack in Portugal and a second in Bournemouth, England. Why did Ruan decide not to press charges? As a group of men have carried out a violent attack I would hope that the police would do what it required to find and prosecute them. Perhaps there wasn't enough evidence, no CCTV etc or they are known but the evidence meet the threshold by the CPS?

This article doesn't provide enough information in my opinion. I'm surprised there isn't another more credible article, I would expect the BBC to cover this, if only locally.

ArabellaScott · 25/06/2021 12:40

Horrible to read. And yes, more should be done to find who did this. If nothing else, shouldn't the police be putting out warnings that a violent gang is on the streets?

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