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I thought this was interesting - Oli London comes out as non-binary and Korean

106 replies

justanotherneighinparadise · 22/06/2021 18:45

mobile.twitter.com/OliLondonTV/status/1407026281577910282

Twitter is telling them you cannot call yourself Korean if you’re not Korean.

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megletthesecond · 22/06/2021 18:49

Well, I hadn't heard of Oli before. Their twitter feed is a bit nuts. Blimey. Is that real?

WotgunShedding · 22/06/2021 18:49

I love the flag

I thought this was interesting - Oli London comes out as non-binary and Korean
PicsInRed · 22/06/2021 18:55

Pronouns are "they/them/kor/ean". 🤔

Does this count as "delightfully mad". It must do.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 22/06/2021 18:56

I'm loving the replies

i am a person belonging to the non-binary umbrella, and this offends me A LOT, being Korean is a nationality, not a gender, you are making fun of all the non-binary umbrella, the neo pronouns and the entire lgbtqa + community! really stop please

I really can't work out who is taking the liss and who isn't any more, the whole thing is just so ridiculous

Tangledtresses · 22/06/2021 19:03

Wow 😮 absolute nuts!!! He's Korean 😂😂😂

theleavesaregreen · 22/06/2021 19:11

It looks like a joke, but apparently they've had lots of cosmetic surgery to look Korean. Maybe they think that if the TAs can achieve what they have, it's possible to push the boundaries further.

CiaoForNiao · 22/06/2021 19:16

I really can't work out who is taking the liss and who isn't any more, the whole thing is just so ridiculous

Same.

It reminds me of a YouTube video I saw where a man asks a load of people if he can identify as a woman if he wants. They all say yes. Then he asks if he can identify as 6foot tall and they say yes, even though he isn't. He asks about IDing as a child, a Chinese person. They get progressively less sure that yes he can self ID as something he isn't, but of course if they say 'no' then he'd question why he can claim to be a woman. I think by the end he basically gets them to agree that he's a 6ft tall, 7 year old Chinese girl.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 22/06/2021 19:17

Isn't it interesting that identifying as some things, and changing your body to look like that thing, is acceptable for some characteristics and not others.

""It feels so good to finally come out as a Korean non-binary person after being trapped in the wrong body and wrong culture my whole life," Oli tweeted last week"

""I am Korean whether people accept it or not this is how I identify, this is what makes me happy," they wrote. "This is who I am. It’s in my DNA"

"Now boasting 245,000 Instagram followers, Oli has built a huge online following after spending thousands on procedures including multiple nose jobs, chin implants and eyelid lifts to look more like Jimin.

Oli's obsession with the boy band star began when they spent time working in South Korea – and a compulsion for cosmetic surgery soon followed.

During one appearance on the plastic surgery show Botched, Oli explained: "I've got multiple cardboard cutouts of Jimin. And I take Jimin to the restaurant, I sleep with Jimin in the bed.
"So, I just thought, 'If I can't be with Jimin, at least I can look like him."

"I have come out as non-binary and Korean and have been living my life as a Korean person for the last several years.

"My entire face has been moulded through surgery to look Korean, I speak the Korean language, I use Korean skincare and I eat Korean food and I feel that I was definitely born in the wrong body and wrong country."

archive.li/3bfrv

I think most people would read the above and think it's a bit creepy, that there's something not quite right. Yet, when it comes to men trying become women it's seen differently.

YellowFish12 · 22/06/2021 19:23

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WarOnWoman · 22/06/2021 19:27

It's amazing how one thing is totally acceptable but the other is so totally offensive. How can people not connect the two and think hang on a minute?

Have no idea who Oli London is (not the target audience) but Oli London sounds quite ill and/or desperate for publicity.

Endofmytether2 · 22/06/2021 19:29

It makes about a much sense as being able to change your sex, ie, none. I'm surprised they can't see the irony.

Endofmytether2 · 22/06/2021 19:29

*as

iamruth · 22/06/2021 19:31

@WarOnWoman

It's amazing how one thing is totally acceptable but the other is so totally offensive. How can people not connect the two and think hang on a minute?

Have no idea who Oli London is (not the target audience) but Oli London sounds quite ill and/or desperate for publicity.

Isn’t it? Yet him identifying as Korean doesn’t appear to give him an unfair advantage or cause any risk to a subjugated group of people that I can tell, though I’m willing to be corrected.
Ostara212 · 22/06/2021 19:31

I'm beginning to think social media is now just meant to be seen as a comedy show?

heathspeedwell · 22/06/2021 19:31

Obviously it's exposure to hormones in the womb that have made Oli identify as Korean. Anyone who disagrees is just a science denier.

Oli identified as Korean since Oli was 7, it's just that the vocabulary wasn't there to express it yet.

JustcameoutGC · 22/06/2021 19:31

I think this must be performance art. I didn't think it was possible to get 'identify' so many times into such a short clip.

Do I have to identify as everything now or can I just be some things?

Endofmytether2 · 22/06/2021 19:33

I'm bewildered that they can't see it and wonder how they align the cognitive dissonance in accepting changing sex, but not race.

JediGnot · 22/06/2021 19:39

@JustcameoutGC

I think this must be performance art. I didn't think it was possible to get 'identify' so many times into such a short clip.

Do I have to identify as everything now or can I just be some things?

I didn't think of the performance art angle. I just saw it as a political point-cum-joke at the expense of the trans orthodoxy. But I think that yeah, his life as a performance art piece that is simultaneously deeply serious and a complete piss-take is probably right.

If he is actually serious - and I can't believe he is [kor / ean FFS] - then we are in serious trouble.

JediGnot · 22/06/2021 19:41

@Endofmytether2

I'm bewildered that they can't see it and wonder how they align the cognitive dissonance in accepting changing sex, but not race.
Yep, especially give the binary nature of sex and the trivial differences between the "races".
JediGnot · 22/06/2021 19:41

@heathspeedwell

Obviously it's exposure to hormones in the womb that have made Oli identify as Korean. Anyone who disagrees is just a science denier.

Oli identified as Korean since Oli was 7, it's just that the vocabulary wasn't there to express it yet.

Didn't you read the thread - it is IN HIS DNA!

Gotta be joking, definitely a piss take.

Ladylokidoki · 22/06/2021 19:42

Its quite funny that people are saying if you are not born in Korea, you can not have surgery and just become Korean.

But not getting the iront of ehat they are saying.

hedgehogger1 · 22/06/2021 19:45

I've been reading some fascinating Facebook comments about how he could have a female brain but not a Korean one :P

MerryDecembermas · 22/06/2021 19:45

This is wonderful. Thanks for sharing.

Outhere · 22/06/2021 19:50

I enjoyed that more than I should. Especially the YouTube comments. Someone please pass them a brain to share.

Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons · 22/06/2021 20:02

😂 "always be yourself" 🤣

That's hilarious & people who don't recognise him as non binary are homophobic 🤷‍♀️😆

Wearing a mask in a room by himself was pretty odd though