Self-ID and racism question

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I was just pondering this morning about the whole 'TWAW' argument and got to thinking about several people over recent years who have lost jobs / been massively criticised for identifying as another race.

So there was an American college professor who had built a career teaching African American studies who had presented herself as Black and was absolutely demolished (quite rightly probably) when it came out that she wasn't. Lost her job, abused on Twitter etc etc.

And yet when a man suddenly decides he's a woman we have to just jump on that and accept it as fact?

Is the difference simply... you know men vs women? Or is it more nuanced in a way I haven't considered. Because if it isn't more nuanced it might be an interesting argument to use.

I feel sorry for her too, because she struggles to accept her biology, and that must be hard - and the abuse must be hard too. Likewise I feel sorry for anyone who is dysphoric about their sexed body. The difference is that because generally people don’t pander to Dolezal’s identity, she doesn’t get to change public policy and bully and threaten black people and take their provisions and spaces.

@MrsBunHat

And then imagine if the people who performed all that insulting imitation of black stereotypes not only insisted they actually WERE literally black, and demanded to be given access to black literary prizes, grants, jobs in black organisations etc., but that people everywhere actually did take them seriously and started giving them these rights and accesses and writing them into law? And if, as a black person, you objected, you were cast as the evil bigot and stood to lose your job, and were subject to threats of death, rape and violence on twitter? But these threats were ignored by the police but if you dared to say "trans black people aren't black" then YOU could get investigated?

Starting to sound unpleasant at all? And perhaps deeply racist?

^^ This. Exactly. And it's so obvious. Yet we are supposed to ignore it and pretend it's all ok. Fuck that shit.

I do think it's time that women's oppression was taught in schools. It needs a higher profile. Of course it's been deliberately downplayed in the last couple of decades, and see where that has got us.,

Oli London now identifies as a non binary Korean

www.indy100.com/celebrities/oli-london-twitter-korean-non-binary-b1870491

Wow at that Oli person. Well one thing I can say having looked at that is that a white Brit having lots of surgery to try to look Korean doesn't seem to work in the least.

I suppose this is inevitable and a good thing in that it just highlights the absurdity of the whole identity juggernaut. Well at least I really hope so, and that it doesn't go the other way instead.

Their (oli) identifying as a Korean has offended a great many people.

Just came to post about oli.

"Fetishising Koreans" comment...

Sorry yes it’s not a good thing in that it’s offensive to Koreans - just that it’s good if via things like this, more people start to join the dots about how “identify as” does not equal “is”.