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Maya's judgement Thursday 10th June 10.30am

856 replies

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 08/06/2021 18:13

Wishing her the very best of luck. twitter.com/MForstater/status/1402310977115279362?s=20

I'll be absolutely gutted if the original decision isn't overturned, but at least her case has let a lot of sunlight in.

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StealthPolarBear · 10/06/2021 10:40

Wonderful news and celebrating.

SuperDuperStraight · 10/06/2021 10:40

@InvisibleDragon
lol I just got an email from Graham right now and clicked through, think others doing the same!

Signalbox · 10/06/2021 10:40

Amazing. Well done Maya!

WeeBisom · 10/06/2021 10:40

Just started reading the judgement, and it says that 'gender critical beliefs' CLEARLY do not fall into the same category as Nazism or totalitarianism.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 10/06/2021 10:40

Great news. Predictable when you look at the nonsense written in the first judgement but well done to Maya. Flowers

DialSquare · 10/06/2021 10:40

Well done Maya!

So pleased.

Mia85 · 10/06/2021 10:40

Skimming the judgment now assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/60c1cce1d3bf7f4bd9814e39/Maya_Forstater_v_CGD_Europe_and_others_UKEAT0105_20_JOJ.pdf.

Key parapraph:

"Mr Cooper submits that, although, as held by the House of Lords in in R (Williamson) V Secretary of State for Education and Employment [2005] 2 AC 246, it is not for the Court to inquire into the validity of a belief, the Tribunal did just that, including by taking the view that the Claimant’s beliefs were not supported by scientific evidence. What it ought to have done, submits Mr Cooper, is to consider whether the Claimant’s belief was of the kind that would make Article 17, ECHR relevant. Had the Tribunal taken that approach, it could only have concluded that the belief was worthy of respect in a democratic society. Not only is it worthy of respect, but it is also one that is consistent with the common law under which sex is regarded as binary and fixed at birth for the purposes of all legal provisions which make a distinction between men and women: see Corbett v Corbett [1971] P 83, Chief Constable of West Yorkshire v A (No.2) [2005] 1 AC 51 HL at [30]. The coming into force of s.9, GRA, under which a person with a Gender Recognition Certificate (“GRC”) “becomes for all purposes” the acquired gender, does not, as the Tribunal appears to have found, require the Claimant to disregard what she considers to be a material reality, namely that sex is immutable."

heathspeedwell · 10/06/2021 10:40

Well done Maya, you absolute legend!!!!!

yourhairiswinterfire · 10/06/2021 10:40

So ''not worthy of respect in a democratic society'' is in the fucking bin where it belongs now, yes?

Ifyourefeelingsinister · 10/06/2021 10:41

Amazing!!!! Such good news!

UppityPuppity · 10/06/2021 10:41

Wow is it too early to open the cava?

Possibly - So I’m going to have a cake.

Well done Maya - you are amazing!!

PronounssheRa · 10/06/2021 10:41

Hopefully gone are they days women fear losing their jobs because they believe biological sex matters

ProfessorInkling · 10/06/2021 10:42

This is amazing. Well done Maya!!!

fruitbrewhaha · 10/06/2021 10:42

Thank fuck for that.

Well done Maya, I wouldn't have the strength to go through that.

senua · 10/06/2021 10:42

"Although the protected characteristic of gender reassignment under s.7, EqA would be likely to apply only to a proportion of trans persons, there are other protected characteristics that could potentially be relied upon in the face of such conduct."
Is that saying that you only get protection if you have a GRC, not if you self-ID?

littlbrowndog · 10/06/2021 10:43

Am having a coffee.

And breakfast as my tummy was to tense earlier on

🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 maya

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 10/06/2021 10:43

Maya thank you so much.

WinterTrees · 10/06/2021 10:43

Lovely statement from Maya here mobile.twitter.com/lardconcepts/status/1402922055708950531

'Be braver today than you were yesterday'

It's thanks to the courage of women like her that it's possible for more of us to be a little bit braver.

Flaxmeadow · 10/06/2021 10:43

Yes!!!!

littlbrowndog · 10/06/2021 10:44

Trending in uk 🙌🏽

AdHominemNonSequitur · 10/06/2021 10:44

Thank Goddess! Maybe the madness really is coming to an end and the world is waking up. Well done Maya and everyone involved.

Strong temptation to go on twitter and lord it a bit over the righteous woke bros, but will remain sombre and adult about it... Whoopeeee!!!!

DisappearingGirl · 10/06/2021 10:44

Woman's Hour talking about free speech and Lisa Keogh judgement right now:

www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/live:bbc_radio_fourfm

MummBraTheEverLeaking · 10/06/2021 10:44

Just been having a quick skim of the judgement but YAAAAY!!! Grin

Wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 10/06/2021 10:44

This is AMAZING news!

MrsBunHat · 10/06/2021 10:44

YES! Maya you absolute bloody star! Thank you so so much. Brilliant video as well.

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