Plaster casts of transwomen's on short list for fourth plinth.

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www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2021/may/24/fourth-plinth-shortlist-includes-huge-rocket-and-casts-of-850-trans-women

Why would we need the casts of transwomens faces to highlight the murders of transwomen, in a country where it rarely happens. 🙄 Transwomen are pretty much the safest group in the UK.

@Erikrie

Why would we need the casts of transwomens faces to highlight the murders of transwomen, in a country where it rarely happens. 🙄 Transwomen are pretty much the safest group in the UK.

Except for on here

Well, words on a screen aren't literal violence are they, no matter how much you'd like to change the meaning of words ☺️

In what way are transwomen 'unsafe' on a public messaging board, Mishy?

What a very odd statement.

Well, there's unsafe from people pointing out your history howlers, I suppose?

Odd statements seem to be the norm for some on here. Including not understanding what a woman is. Bizarre really.

I agree that a plinth featuring transwomen who have been murdered in other countries is an odd choice for the fourth plinth too.

I hope they'll go with another option.

It’s open to public comment so I’ve commented on the options I’d prefer and why

Except for on here

Aye. We've been known to use... sarcasm. We know all the tricks, dramatic irony, metaphor, bathos, puns, parody, litotes and... satire. We are vicious.

Maybe we could have a plinth featuring all the murdered women in the UK. Oh, wait, there wouldn't be enough room would there.

Maybe we could have a plinth featuring all the murdered women in the UK. Oh, wait, there wouldn't be enough room would there.

Yep. It's funny that when deciding who to murder, men know exactly who the actual women are.

Ooh, what’s litotes, apart from possibly a decent score in Scrabble?

Because what we really need are more statues of males in public places, there definitely aren't enough

It will be to push the false narrative that they are somehow the most murdered 'folk' on the planet.

@UnkindlyMay

Ooh, what’s litotes, apart from possibly a decent score in Scrabble?

You've made me look it up now. No idea. That was from a Monty Python sketch.

"a figure of speech and form of verbal irony in which understatement is used to emphasize a point by stating a negative to further affirm a positive, often incorporating double negatives for effect."

So, perhaps, "alankermode did not provide the most coherent contribution to the thread".

My first thought was of Cynthia Albritton, an American artist and self-described "recovering groupie" who gained fame for creating plaster casts of famous persons' erect penises.
Then for one awful moment, I thought the intention was to depict murdered prostitutes.
.But in fact, neither is proposed.

I say 'awful' because I'd been a bit jocular about the proposal, but in fact the depictees would be alive and (sometimes) kicking.

I have to admit from the title of this thread I thought it was going to be about penises too.

I've just twigged that the Wiki entry I got the Cynthia Albritton stuff from (uncredited: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynthia_Plaster_Caster ) mentions casts of 'persons' penises', rather than men's! Though 'men's penises' is itself a tautology. Or it used to be...

@Erikrie

Maybe we could have a plinth featuring all the murdered women in the UK. Oh, wait, there wouldn't be enough room would there.

👏

Hopefully they will go for something else. Really inappropriate considering the number of women murdered annually in the uk.

The artist wants to use living trans women, most of whom are apparently sex workers. Then she goes on to say most of them live in the UK. Dont really understand.

Thanks op. I've voted for one I think is appropriate for its location (not that one)

They're just covering the new proposals for the plinths on the BBC local news. Interesting to see what they say

@Defaultname

My first thought was of Cynthia Albritton, an American artist and self-described "recovering groupie" who gained fame for creating plaster casts of famous persons' erect penises. Then for one awful moment, I thought the intention was to depict murdered prostitutes. .But in fact, neither is proposed.

Omg Cynthia plaster caster!!! I loved the book I'm with the band so much