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Scottish woman told would be charged for homophobic and transphobic tweets

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 22/05/2021 13:25

twitter.com/millar_marion/status/1396039074239164423?s=19

On Wednesday April the 28th 2021 I received a call from a PC Laura Daley from police scotland requesting i attend an interview for homophobic and transphobic tweets under the milacious communications act.

I was asked to attend that coming Friday, she told me I had to attend East Kilbride police station so I could be then transported to Cathcart police station in a police car because I would have to go to a police station where there is holding cells, I would be then processed, questioned and then most likely charged.

I told her I would not be attending any interview on that day especially with it being a bank holiday weekend because my autistic twins needed me and I was scared I would be held all weekend.

To this she told me she would attend my house with social workers for my boys.

I contacted a solicitor straight away and he was unable to get PC Daley so for the first bank holiday in May I sent my disabled twins away for fear of this officer carrying out this threat.

This absolute nonsense has been hanging over my head for a month, I can barely sleep
or eat and I still don't know what the offending tweet is, my new interview has been scheduled for Thursday the 27th May, I will find out what I am supposed to have said at that point and if I will be indeed charged, again at another bank holiday, I just want to say, anyone who knows me, knows I am not homophobic or transphobic, I am a hard working mummy who would fight to the end for the safety and dignity of women and girls and for my vulnerable twinnies.

If we sit back and do nothing we will regret it for ever. For this reason I will never
Wheesht.

#WomenWontWheesht

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TheShadowyFeminist · 22/05/2021 19:59

"It is very hard to credit that the complaint is anything other than politically motivated, rather than coming from a place of genuine fear. And quite hard to take the PC's own actions as completely neutral."

This is exactly what is happening.

My prediction is that the 'complainants' will be linked to those with the SNP's ear.* This is a faux outrage manoeuvre to keep up pressure on Scotgov with GRA reform. It's to discredit the women objecting, to smooth the way forward for removing women's rights.

  • I already have a good idea who is involved.
nauticant · 22/05/2021 20:00

The polarisation in the replies is interesting:

twitter.com/search?q=(to%3A%40millar_marion)&src=typed_query&f=live

Imagine as an Establishment figure looking at those against Marion Millar and thinking "yes, those are the people I align with".

PearPickingPorky · 22/05/2021 20:13

So they waited until the new hate crime laws came into force and then reported this old tweet then?

As if we didn't all predict exactly this would happen.

NoIdontwanttoseeyourknob · 22/05/2021 20:32

No, as Miss Barbary has pointed out upthread, the Hate Crime Act isn’t in effect yet. The alarming thing is that they don’t even need it to do this!

NoIdontwanttoseeyourknob · 22/05/2021 20:36

@TheShadowyFeminist

"It is very hard to credit that the complaint is anything other than politically motivated, rather than coming from a place of genuine fear. And quite hard to take the PC's own actions as completely neutral."

This is exactly what is happening.

My prediction is that the 'complainants' will be linked to those with the SNP's ear.* This is a faux outrage manoeuvre to keep up pressure on Scotgov with GRA reform. It's to discredit the women objecting, to smooth the way forward for removing women's rights.

  • I already have a good idea who is involved.
I already have a good idea who is involved.

Do you think they might be based in Stirling, perhaps?

SakuraEdenSwan1 · 22/05/2021 20:41

So the law does not apply to feminists?

The Police have a job to do, never mind fuck em blah blah blah, attend the interview and be grateful they did not come out and arrest you, stop using your kids as an excuse not to cooperate.

SakuraEdenSwan1 · 22/05/2021 20:43

[quote Thelnebriati]There is no legal definition of 'transphobia', and they have refused to tell her what her offending comments are.
You have the right to know what you are being charged with.
www.equalityhumanrights.com/en/human-rights-act/article-6-right-fair-trial

The link in the OP didnt work for me;
twitter.com/millar_marion/status/1396039074239164423[/quote]
Attending an interview to answer questions put to her, why did she think she is special and should be treat differently to any other person being interviewed?

ScreamingMeMe · 22/05/2021 21:14

@SakuraEdenSwan1

So the law does not apply to feminists?

The Police have a job to do, never mind fuck em blah blah blah, attend the interview and be grateful they did not come out and arrest you, stop using your kids as an excuse not to cooperate.

What law?
WagnersFourthSymphony · 22/05/2021 21:17

Attending an interview to answer questions put to her, why did she think she is special and should be treat differently to any other person being interviewed?

Eh? Are you serious?
Or sarcastic?

She is being treated differently. Even if you accept (which I don't) that there are grounds for interviewing her, she is being treated differently in the oppressive manner of the scheduling and rescheduling of the interview, the place of interview (with holding cell, for a tweet FGS) and the threat to her children.

NiceGerbil · 22/05/2021 21:20

Sakura the process is not always the same for everything.

I don't know the process in Scotland tbf.

But I very much doubt that kids to social services, have to be transported to a station with a police station is standard

Some will be arrested as soon as found/ at home and charged and taken away immediately.

Some will give a statement at home surely or if not, at a station without holding cells if it's nearer.

In general they obviously think she is not a flight risk. And so why not let her find childcare rather than taking children who have disabilities with people they have no idea who they are. I mean if they don't think she's a flight risk how urgent can it be that they won't give her a day or 2?

Thecatonthemat · 22/05/2021 21:23

Sakura Do you not think that actually in a time when killers abusers and pornographers are free because there are not enough resources to arrest/ prosecute/jail them, they should avoid the activity of harassing women who have not broken the law?

MissBarbary · 22/05/2021 21:27

@NiceGerbil

They want to find out how many are Scots as opposed to English Welsh Northern Irish.

If they just put British as you suggest then they wouldn't know would they.

I cannot for the life of me understand why you have been annoyed by this?

Has it made you feel 'othered'??!!

I don't feel "othered" but it annoys me. I don't feel particularly Scottish, or in current parlance "identity as Scottish".

In any case your assumptions are wrong. The options were "White Scottish", "White Irish" or "White Other British" so it lumps English, Welsh and Northern Irish British into one.

I'm puzzled by your I cannot for the life of me understand why you have been annoyed by this? - given the amount of time and effort posters on here put in complaining about being put in the wrong category.

RJnomore1 · 22/05/2021 21:27

I’m sure south Lanarkshire social work would be delighted to have to waste their massively stretched resources on this.

MissBarbary · 22/05/2021 21:38

NiceGerbil

They want to find out how many are Scots as opposed to English Welsh Northern Irish

If they just put British as you suggest then they wouldn't know would they

Why is it even relevant to distinguish how many white "Scots" (whatever that even means) as opposed to white English or Welsh people live in Scotland ?

And, even if it were, your assumptions are wrong as that isn't what was asked. It had the option of White Scottish, White Irish, White Gypsy/Traveller, White Polish or any other White ethnicity.

NiceGerbil · 22/05/2021 22:30

Irish is asked in England as well as a group they have been discriminated against, and so it's a metric they want to get data on.

This is a total diversion.

If you are interested in why the form reads as it does, there will be info on the net. I've looked it up for these types of forms in England in the past.

Malvarrosa · 23/05/2021 00:00

This bright spark (and amateur Scots usage detective) has "helpfully" reported the #WOMENWONTWHEESHT hashtag to Twitter Safety. As if the poor exploited Twitter minions don't have enough real work to do!

Exactly what sort of person feels unsafe at the thought of women, er, not being silenced?
Shock Confused Hmm

AnotherLass · 23/05/2021 00:25

Don't know if anyone else has mentioned it (haven't read the whole thread) but people on twitter are talking about going to stand outside this police station on the 27th May in support of Marion - it's Cathcart Police Station in Glasgow. The appointment is 3:30 pm so gathering from 2pm.

Might be good to check that she actually wants it first, but presuming she does, it might be good to drop by. Won't do any harm for the police to realise that this kind of behaivour is going to upset a lot of people.

PearPickingPorky · 23/05/2021 00:28

I'm local, so placemarking in case she does want people there and I will try to come along.

Tibtom · 23/05/2021 01:26

Don't know if anyone else has mentioned it (haven't read the whole thread) but people on twitter are talking about going to stand outside this police station on the 27th May in support of Marion - it's Cathcart Police Station in Glasgow. The appointment is 3:30 pm so gathering from 2pm.

Just bear in mind Glasgow is still level 3 covid restrictions.

Nellodee · 23/05/2021 08:00

So, in all the Twitter posts, the most I’ve seen is that she told someone deliberately goading “transphobes” with how amazing they liked that they “should have gone to Specsavers” and on a separate occasion that someone else should “get over their vagina envy”? And this is the basis on which the police threaten to arrest her and take her autistic children away? Or perhaps it is some other, equally sinister post that no one has referenced?

I have no words for how disgusting this state of affairs is. How anyone who thinks that level of response is appropriate can then convince themselves they are on the right side of history is beyond me, it truly is.

Nellodee · 23/05/2021 08:01

Looked, not liked.

TheoMeo · 23/05/2021 08:05

The police enact the Laws - don't whinge about nasty police when it's actually wanker MSPs

334bu · 23/05/2021 08:21

It is also important to note that according to her tweets, she was to present herself to East Kilbride police station( level 2 restrictions) for transfer to Cathcart police station, the latter not only in Glasgow( level 3 restrictions) but in G42 which along with G41 are the two postcodes at the epicentre of the new variant Covid outbreak.

334bu · 23/05/2021 08:26

Apologies , have just read the OP and noted the dates were before the outbreak and both places had same restrictions. However, things have now changed , do why are they not interviewing her in EK?

Tibtom · 23/05/2021 08:29

@TheoMeo

The police enact the Laws - don't whinge about nasty police when it's actually wanker MSPs
We have already had cases thrown out of court with no case to answer where the stonewall trained police and CPS have acted like a private protection service for TRAs. It is not just MPs or MSPs.