Scottish woman told would be charged for homophobic and transphobic tweets

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twitter.com/millar_marion/status/1396039074239164423?s=19

On Wednesday April the 28th 2021 I received a call from a PC Laura Daley from police scotland requesting i attend an interview for homophobic and transphobic tweets under the milacious communications act.

I was asked to attend that coming Friday, she told me I had to attend East Kilbride police station so I could be then transported to Cathcart police station in a police car because I would have to go to a police station where there is holding cells, I would be then processed, questioned and then most likely charged.

I told her I would not be attending any interview on that day especially with it being a bank holiday weekend because my autistic twins needed me and I was scared I would be held all weekend.

To this she told me she would attend my house with social workers for my boys.

I contacted a solicitor straight away and he was unable to get PC Daley so for the first bank holiday in May I sent my disabled twins away for fear of this officer carrying out this threat.

This absolute nonsense has been hanging over my head for a month, I can barely sleep
or eat and I still don't know what the offending tweet is, my new interview has been scheduled for Thursday the 27th May, I will find out what I am supposed to have said at that point and if I will be indeed charged, again at another bank holiday, I just want to say, anyone who knows me, knows I am not homophobic or transphobic, I am a hard working mummy who would fight to the end for the safety and dignity of women and girls and for my vulnerable twinnies.

If we sit back and do nothing we will regret it for ever. For this reason I will never
Wheesht.

#WomenWontWheesht

Haud yer wheesht.

As above.

Would also add though that after years, and years, of all these endless blood stained t shirts, rape threats, kerb stomping - I never even heard of that before, what kind of awful, distorted, inhuman mind actually considers saying that to another human being ffs? Die in a grease fire, there's another... totally not highly disturbing sign of the speaker's mental health and view towards other human beings -

the point is that after years and years and years of constantly being flooded with this stuff by trans activists with a lot of normalising and justification and excusing, it's hardly surprising that a) some disturbed individual has now made an actual, credible threat with a picture of a weapon, and b) some lesbian has finally got annoyed enough to retaliate in kind.

The answer is that none of this should ever have been acceptable in the first place!

@ArabellaScott

Otherwise, the whole thing is becoming Kafkaesque.

I think we passed the Kafka Bar in about 2019.

I would love to get pissed in the Kafka Bar right now.

I'e only just had time to catch up with this thread, having seen the interview date and time posted last night.

Truely shocking.

Was wonder that many on FWR will not know of this development, and although starting a new thread seems silly with all the info here, would it be worth posting a new thread, but say please start from page 12 which has info following the police interview.

Also, mumsnet scores very highly on google search so a thread title about this would be a way of getting the word out.

Yes / No?

Someone better informed could start it?

Pretty much @PronounssheRa

What a state of affairs, mainly for Marion, and I can't imagine what she's going through right now

And Brunel uni now having to furiously backpeddle because instead of checking the context of the question (the context being a threat to women and a big picture of a fucking gun for fuck sake), they jumped straight in with the Bonewall training mantras and now they have egg on their face. Good. I hope they wake up and take a look at what their racket fees have got them with that organisation.

I hope every university looks at what has happened to Brunel today, and rethinks their position too.

In my house it was always 'husht ya wheesht.'

I'm glad all the burglaries, rapes and murders in Scotland have been solved. It must be such a comfort to the people there that the police are free to concentrate their efforts on this.

I saw a tweet that said the gun toting incel has been arrested and their would be a statement soon. Just a random account though, nobody official so take with a pinch of salt for now.

If Marion can be arrested for undisclosed tweets I would like to think they swooped down on this guy quickly.

*there

I love the term Haud yer wheesht.

Literally Hold your quiet,- be still, silent.

Has anyone got a link to the petition supporting Marion?

The one I found doesn’t work.

I know it's just one person on the internet but it's staggering they think this is acceptable.

@MargaritaPie

I saw this on Twitter, should this be referred to the police too?

LOL, you know absolutely nothing at all - I mean NOTHING; it's quite extraordinary how you've avoided it!! - about feminism, do you? Go do a web search on Mary Daly, and then get a clue about diversity of thought.

I saw this on Twitter, should this be referred to the police too?

@MargaritaPie that symbol of a "labrys" (double-headed axe) is a long-standing symbol of lesbian separatism (since the 1970s). It's used as a symbol of independence, not a weapon.

Here's Wikipedia
Labrys lesbian symbol

ForWomenScotland have confirmed the offending communication was definitely tweets that are still up, not private messages. Still unclear if Marion herself knows exactly which tweets in question though.

It is disconcerting to not know what the tweet was, and I only became aware of Marion when word got out about the interview, so I'm not without misgivings that it might be something "not very nice," maybe even more hair raising than "pig in a wig," something that in any case wouldn't bear a Sparticus type retweet campaign. While I'd bet several months salary that it doesn't come close to the kind of threats and insults TRAs heap on women daily, we do have double standards to keep up after all. For what it's worth, (a fair bit to me) Helen Joyce vouches for her:
twitter.com/HJoyceGender/status/1400410618017062913

Lesbian flag

some lesbian has finally got annoyed enough to retaliate in kind.

That isn't what happened - that tweet is in a thread for which the image in the OP is that of the labrys flag (flag with the double headed axe). The tweet text and image is riffing off the OP of that thread.

I dare say some people do find the existence of lesbians quite threatening, they usually have the sense to haud their weesht about it, though, as it is considered lesbophobic by most right thinking people.

And they've not said they want to use it on people, let alone a specific group of people.

Although, given the way twitter and the police seem to operate, we can't rule out that tweeter getting into some sort of trouble I suppose.

@thinkningaboutit

I know it's just one person on the internet but it's staggering they think this is acceptable.

That's the problem though. People are emboldened because they've seen this kind of thing - barbed wire baseball bats as library/museum exhibits, sportspeople wishing women would die in grease fires, oh and the good old two women a week murdered - go on and on and on, and almost entirely without consequence.

Society does generally seem to find it acceptable, let's be honest.

stumbledin has sensibly started a new thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4261275-Scottish-woman-CHARGED-for-homophobic-and-transphobic-tweets

I think substantive chat about the case would better go on that new thread. This one can continue with the gun-toting incel and other themes.

Not that sensible as it says to come on this thread

Ahh, I misread. Hmm, that's not clear.

I'd also like to know what the tweet was before getting too vocal in support. I don't care if it was "not very nice" - that's nowhere near a high enough bar for freedom of expression, and absolute double standards when you consider what abuse gets hurled at GC women all the time. But if, say, she got carried away and threatened someone directly, that would make a difference to how supportive I want to be.

Not the brightest are they?