Scottish woman told would be charged for homophobic and transphobic tweets

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twitter.com/millar_marion/status/1396039074239164423?s=19

On Wednesday April the 28th 2021 I received a call from a PC Laura Daley from police scotland requesting i attend an interview for homophobic and transphobic tweets under the milacious communications act.

I was asked to attend that coming Friday, she told me I had to attend East Kilbride police station so I could be then transported to Cathcart police station in a police car because I would have to go to a police station where there is holding cells, I would be then processed, questioned and then most likely charged.

I told her I would not be attending any interview on that day especially with it being a bank holiday weekend because my autistic twins needed me and I was scared I would be held all weekend.

To this she told me she would attend my house with social workers for my boys.

I contacted a solicitor straight away and he was unable to get PC Daley so for the first bank holiday in May I sent my disabled twins away for fear of this officer carrying out this threat.

This absolute nonsense has been hanging over my head for a month, I can barely sleep
or eat and I still don't know what the offending tweet is, my new interview has been scheduled for Thursday the 27th May, I will find out what I am supposed to have said at that point and if I will be indeed charged, again at another bank holiday, I just want to say, anyone who knows me, knows I am not homophobic or transphobic, I am a hard working mummy who would fight to the end for the safety and dignity of women and girls and for my vulnerable twinnies.

If we sit back and do nothing we will regret it for ever. For this reason I will never
Wheesht.

#WomenWontWheesht

Thank goodness Brunel have recognised that threats to kill women are in fact, a place matter.

I saw this on Twitter, should this be referred to the police too?

Placemarking

@JustNippingToWaitrose

I wonder when she will be told which tweet it was? Surely they have to tell her so that her legal team can start work on her defence?

At an even more basic level, surely interview procedure is to show the person a printout of the offending tweets so you can get them to confirm that they wrote them? Otherwise, the whole thing is becoming Kafkaesque.

Brunel have referred the matter to police

Brunel will also have the capacity to deal with the matter under their student conduct policy.

Let's hope that they do.

@ScreamingMeMe

The threshold in the Malicious Communications Act is a pretty high one.

Kate Scottow was prosecuted under this for calling someone a "pig in a wig" and misgendering someone.

Not saying Marion hasn't done something worse, as you say we don't know, but it's not necessarily guaranteed.

That fell short of the threshold though, and Kate Scottow was acquitted. The prosecutors will be aware of this.

I'd be reluctant to go all in on this until I know what was tweeted. I'm guessing Marion has been told by now.

@MargaritaPie

I saw this on Twitter, should this be referred to the police too?

If it's a violent threat, yes, do go ahead.

Otherwise, the whole thing is becoming Kafkaesque.

I think we passed the Kafka Bar in about 2019.

I'd second this. The threshold in the Malicious Communications Act is a pretty high one. It might very well be that the police and the prosecutors have all taken leave of their senses. But it might also be that she said something not very nice.

Unless she threatened violence, I don't give a shit if she said something "not very nice", and I will defend anyone's right to freedom of speech and being persecuted for exercising it (theoretically), whether I agree with it or not.

"If it's a violent threat, yes, do go ahead."

Well it seems to be basically the same as what the student of Brunel posted.

@ArabellaScott

And Brunel university's response, when confronted with pictures of guns posted as threats by their student say '*@Transalorian* We support and stand by our Transgender staff and students. Trans rights are human rights.'

That is absolutely disgraceful. It is as if human civilisation has been subsumed into a vile cesspit. Did Brunel University just ignore a weapon accompanied by murder intimations towards women?

Have Brunel University condemned that and are they making sure that person cannot endanger anyone on their site? If they don't do that they are tacitly supporting it. By giving it cover, one could be led to believe they condone the threat to women's lives?

Kate Scottow was still convicted and had to appeal though.

I guess we'll see in due course.

(Incidentally good-faith repeating of the original tweet in the interests of reporting the legal battle is not an offence. The purpose would not be to cause distress or anxiety under s.1 of the Act.)

@ArabellaScott

Otherwise, the whole thing is becoming Kafkaesque.

I think we passed the Kafka Bar in about 2019.

Well it's been Orwellian for a while (those in power silencing those who say the wrong thing), but the Kafkaesque element is not even being told what crime you have been committed.

Brunel responded too quickly. Otherwise known as , saw the word trans, disengaged brain and regurgitated whatever stonewall had trained them to say.

[quote nauticant]@Bruneluni posted bland sweeping-under-the-carpet tweets, got strong push-back, and have suddenly deleted them. Someone there has woken up to the fact they could have a real PR problem if they don't act.[/quote]
I find that a companies social media often has a very different content and tone from the website and other media. It’s very interesting that they allow the tone to be so immature. Very bad business.

@RoyalCorgi

1) it's a tweet that Marion is in trouble for not 'chasing trans women and calling them men' (seriously wtf, where do they even get this stuff?

The idea that Marion has been chasing trans women conjures up images of Benny Hill in his heyday. It's quite extraordinary the way that TRAs just make shit up and apparently never have to answer for the consequences.

Help please, what is: TRAs?

@YetAnotherSpartacus

Brunel have referred the matter to police

Brunel will also have the capacity to deal with the matter under their student conduct policy.

Let's hope that they do.

That student has definitely broken the Brunel student code of conduct:

Non-academic misconduct

Threatening or engaging in violence, harassment, bullying or abuse, either physically, verbally or by way of the Internet or social media;

@MargaritaPie

"If it's a violent threat, yes, do go ahead."

Well it seems to be basically the same as what the student of Brunel posted.

Bullshit.

It’s the double headed axe on the lesbian flag, not a threat to hunt down and kill people.

"If it's a violent threat, yes, do go ahead."

It's interesting to look at the tweet within the thread as context - and to see the item to which it's replying (image with the Labrys flag).

twitter.com/IssillyJ/status/1399757782765690881?s=20

@MargaritaPie

I saw this on Twitter, should this be referred to the police too?

a) that is clearly plastic b) the labrys was the scepter of the goddess Artemis and has been used as a lesbian symbol for decades. c) I am aware of zero instances in which a lesbian has ever actually used a labrys to attack anyone and this is the first misjudged tweet I've seen that could be read that way d) unlike seeing images of guns directed at women by male people which is a daily occurance on twitter as well being such a serious instance in real life that women are currently being murdered at a rate of three a week in the UK

Nice try at comparing apples to oranges though.

@MargaritaPie

"If it's a violent threat, yes, do go ahead."

Well it seems to be basically the same as what the student of Brunel posted.

It's a lesbian symbol (see screenshot from wikipedia) & I read the tweet as, "Let's get out there protesting for political change, just like we used to".

I make no comment whatsoever on the other matter.

@MargaritaPie

I saw this on Twitter, should this be referred to the police too?

I don’t read that as a threat of violence exactly... it’s the double headed axe of... doodah (not sure it’s a lesbian symbol I think). It’s not usually waved on anyone’s faces with death threats .That’s the numpties waving their barbed wire covered baseball bats, swords, and anime’s with machine guns.

That person posting a gun and talk about using people for target practice, should be questioned by the police and monitored.

@JebelSherif

Help please, what is "Wheesht"?

Wheest is what your Scottish granny would say to you to shut you up!