I think what is sad about this whole proposition that somehow anti trans non feminims posters have colonised FWR and alienation old timers is exactly the tactic that men use to say you made me do it.
There are very, very few social media platforms where gender critical feminists can post. Gender critical as in early Women's Liberation feminist that gender is a social construct that damages both men and women.
So obviously those who saw, in response to the consultation on the GRA a place where they had the freedom to discuss openly an issue that is being used, by others, to undermine women's rights.
All this talk about MRAs coming here, is just one persons personal perception. When you compare how MRAs are using trans rights to silence and get banned women who want to speak up for women's rights it is laughable.
And lots of us for instance post on the terrible toll of domesstic violence. Some of us have tried to provide practical support and links to women trying to escape DV. It is incredibly arrogant to say that because the OP hasn't notice them they aren't happening.
And again, it is a total failure to recognise what is happening in the real world. Women's refuges are loosing funding because of wanting to implement the legitimate single sex service for women. Going all I'm really the only one who really cares and not being aware of this threat to women's services is just, I was going to say absurd, but is actually frighteningly unaware of what is going on in the women's sector.
And as other's have mentioned up thread, after the murder of Sarah Everard you would thought that women would come together and share ideas about campaigning, etc.. But no, the women who decided to appropriate the slogan Reclaim These Streets than started censoring women who talk about sex being a biological reality. Additionally they refused to say that any money collected in "their" name would go to any women's projects that ae single sex provision.
It isn't GC feminists who are shutting down conversations.
I dont know what planet you have been on, but the world has moved on.
I have been involved in feminism since the days of women's liberation and with what is known as the women's sector, ie women's refuges, rape crisis helpline. Gone are the days when you might do a fundraiser so that children living in refuges could get a holiday over the summer, our lobby a local authority to provide another house because the demand for bed spaces have gone up.
Everything, and I mean EVERYTHING that women want to do for themselves and for other women in now constrained and actively undermind by the demand that women MUST accept that trans women are women.
It impacts on funding, it impacts on who gets consulted, it impacts on women have save spaces, it impacts for some women on whether or not they lose their job.
It is pie in the sky to claim you can discuss women's issues without this coming up - and being used against women who want to fight for women's rights and women's right to live without fear of men's violence.
And yet somehow OP twists this round that those pointing out this staggering power that the TWAW lobby has, are the problem. The problem are those who want to silence women's voices. And now OP comes on one of the few places where women can freely discuss this and say it is alienating.
You have the whole of the rest of the internet to discuss issues pretending this threat to women's rights doesn't exist, but you come to the one place where women can talk about their rights and not be bullied into saying they agree that others rights come before women's rights.
How can you not see this when you must be aware of the totally onslaught JKR had. Not just on social media, but in MSM.
And just to add although some on MNHQs rules are really strange (that whole petition thing not being allowed to appear in threads aobut the issue the petition has been set up for
) many thanks to MNHQ for allowing women who are silenced everywhere else to have a forum.