Gareeca Gordon conviction ~ a rare female horror killing?

[CallMeCleo]

I can't remember ever hearing of a woman committing such a crime. I'm shocked, stunned, almost catatonic in disbelief.

www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/phoenix-netts-murder-dismembered-gareeca-gordon-jailed-bristol-crown-court-b933139.html

I'm also surprised at the lack of coverage.

It's the sort of case the media usually like to report. Unusual, extreme etc.

I assume there must be some reasons for it but no idea what.

This happened on the road my mum lives on, literally a stones throw away. It was a local person who had called about suspicious activity near their house that got them caught. Such a shock as we’re a fairly sleep town.

My heart goes out to her family, it must be devastating to live with the details of her murder.

Do you mean the discovery of the people travelling around with the suitcases? Thank god for someone being 'nosy' for whatever reason. Poor Phoenix's family may never have known what happened otherwise.

Yes, I believe (as per the person who’s house was directly opposite where they were picked up) saw somebody acting suspiciously in the woods/ a container facility and by the quarry and called the police, she had set her dogs off is why she was having a nosey.

This thread and the coverage being "like a foot note" as a pp put it, makes me think of Mary Bell. Most people have heard the names Robert Thompson and Jon Venables, but the little girl who strangled two boys to death in the 60's, seems to have been forgotten quickly.

Mary bell was much longer ago. 50 years. I have heard of her.

She was also tracked down by the press a few years back I think? And there was a load of stuff about that. So the media obviously haven't forgotten.

As with so many things, it depends where you are looking. It seems recent to me that there was a big fuss when Mary Bell was released on licence after serving about 30 + (?) years on a life sentence. I say seems because it may be 10 - 20 years ago which shows my age. I only knew of her because I had reason to research the subject of child killers when I myself was young. I am sure many, many younger people have never heard of her. Even Venables and Thompson may be a vague recollection to many now.

Crossposted with Nice Gerbil, sorry.

I believe some of her suspicious movements locally in Birmingham had also been reported. But people in the countryside do take more note of strangers. I remember I used to visit a friend in the Gloucestershire countryside who would make a point of introducing me to anyone we met when out as she knew they'd be curious about any stranger 'wondering' about.

I would hazard a guess that the names of many men who have done this sort of thing in the last 50 years are way less well known.

Who can name off the top of their head the recent serial killer who targeted men that the police fucked up the investigation? Or the serial killer in muswell hill? Or the man from hull who was an arsonist and killed loads of people in the 70s?

(Without googling!).

I'm sure some can but the women convicted of these types of crimes definitely tend to be remembered more (because it's less common).

@cateycloggs

As with so many things, it depends where you are looking. It seems recent to me that there was a big fuss when Mary Bell was released on licence after serving about 30 + (?) years on a life sentence. I say seems because it may be 10 - 20 years ago which shows my age. I only knew of her because I had reason to research the subject of child killers when I myself was young. I am sure many, many younger people have never heard of her. Even Venables and Thompson may be a vague recollection to many now.

Mary Bell didn’t serve 30 years. I think she was released when she was in her early 20s and it’s very untrue that there was no fuss surrounding her case. There was loads but obviously it was a very long time ago. She was also granted a lifetime anonymity order on release, although the press tried to breach that, putting Mary’s daughter at risk of having her identity revealed.

It’s also worth pointing out that Mary came from an unimaginably abusive home where her prostitute mother pimped her out to her pedophile clients from age 4. Her mum once sold Mary to a mentally ill woman and also tried to kill her with an overdose. I guess social services didn’t exist in those days but basically it’s hard to imagine a more horrific upbringing and it’s unsurprising that she went off the rails. She’s now 64 and hasn’t offended since she got out or the public would have heard about it.

Gosh there's some absolute rubbish being spouted on this thread now.

You need to step away from true crime tv or whatever it is you're all watching.

@oldwomanwhoruns

I am not buying this story. Not buying it.

That's probably quite a natural reaction when you think abou the paucity of information and previous obfuscation's of the sex of some 'women' who committed atrocious and violent crimes.

This is just another of the entirely forseeable consequences of blindlingly accepting that TWAW and allowing gender to replace sex in legal forms.

If the newpapers were not tied by their own regulators to use the self stated gender of a criminal regardless of any other reality we would know what sex every perpetrator is and we wouldn't have threads like these.

And think on... for every thread like this there could be an ONS anomaly. Women's crime statistics including male perpetrators.

And yet they said it couldn't happen!!!

Good Evening to all. I feel violently sick reading this. Because earlier this year I discovered that a woman I was friends with didn't just suffer from a bit of depression and anxiety bit had a perdonality disorder.

And when I heard about this story I'm not going to lie, it could have been me as our friendship became intimate. She blocked me and changed her number without warning because I suspect it was because I had to put a lid on having a relationship with her. I did love her very much and I told her I was sorry. She then tried to blame me for messing with her head as she put it, then tried to gaslight and twist it back to her by making out that she had a seizure in a restaurant due to stress.

May I point out that when I was with her in her house she was extremely emotional and tearful, kept regurgitating her life story which I've heard about at least 20 times and wasn't affectionate. When she did become affectionate it was rather sporadic.

She was really messing with my head, when I got home she started to send me very explicit messages. She even said I love you and I want a relationship yet I know she isn't capable of love.

I feel seriously sick to my stomach that this could have been my situation.

The lady I speak of is known to the police with involvement as long as your arm, always in court, getting behaviour warning letters and to think I somewhat fell in love with her.

I feel like a fool but maybe just maybe God saved me from what could have been. I reckon if we were still friends she would keep chipping away at me until I'm totally dependent on her and can't function.