New CEO of Edinburgh Rape Crisis

[TheFleegleHasLanded]

I struggled to even come up with a title for this thread as I am so enraged I know I will get deleted and even banned if I say what I really think.

twitter.com/EdinRapeCrisis/status/1389112490215288832?s=20

[Alicethroughtheblackmirror]

Edinburgh Rape Crisis' chief operating officer is Maggie Chapman who used to be co-convener of the Greens before the even nuttier Lorna Slater took over. She is standing as a candidate again this year. This is the wonderful Joan McAlpine asking her if she thinks women can have penises.
twitter.com/ScotlandTonight/status/1131668625541214210?s=20

[SuperLoudPoppingAction]

I've seen MC laugh about 'terfs'.
Really would not be voting for her tbh. Mind you, people generally don't.

[Jaxhog]

@transsloth

Amazing, isn't it, how a male woman was the very best candidate for being the CEO of a rape crisis centre.

Male humans really are better at everything than female humans, aren't they?

I just wonder what the last 45 years has really been for? We've gone from my not getting a job because 'the men won't like it' to a male person as CEO of a rape crisis centre. Feels like a huge step backwards.

I guess men really got on board with the 'if you can't beat them, join them' idea.

[NecessaryScene1]

PPs have already linked to the older Wings Over Scotland pieces about this individual, but new excoriating one up on the whole mess.

What it is to be kind

So we’re making a plea from the heart. Spoil your constituency paper, readers. For children, for women, for gay people, for Scotland and for kindness.

[WarriorN]

[quote R0wantrees]Important thread by Sarah Stuart:
twitter.com/sarahstuartxx/status/1297441056003444738[/quote]

Can anyone archive this please?

[NecessaryScene1]

Existing archive here: archive.is/lc9w3

It's easy to do yourself - just go to archive.is and paste in the URL.

[HermioneWeasley]

Don’t know why my post was deleted - I was very careful to say “male”

[thepuredrop]

I hope a man who could have applied, but didn’t because of the single-sex exception invoked, sues for sex-based discrimination. Unfortunately no-one will take the female applicants’ or service users’ concerns seriously.

[thepuredrop]

Though I take the point already mentioned by others, that discrimination on the basis of gender is more appropriate as a sex-based suit would fail.

[AvocadoBathroom]

@FightingTheFoo

Incredible that they carve out "BME" women with trans women.

It is SO racist! It is just so fucking racist. And dehumanising.

BME women are still WOMEN you fucking muppets. They don't need to be carved out into a separate group with people who are not biological women.

SO racist. At some point these woke idiots will understand why.

[Ereshkigalangcleg]

SO racist. At some point these woke idiots will understand why.

You're more optimistic than me!

[stumbledin]

Upthread someone posted the link to the archive application pack which included the phrase statement about being women only under the EA (although web page didn't say this).

So there may be two different things going on here. One of which is, I thought Scotland had effectively changed the definition of what a woman was in relation to ??? being discussed in the Scottish Parliament.

Alternatively the implementation of women only is where it is shown there is a genuine need for this. Could this mean that the advertisers, ie ERC could say well in fact given the "experience" of the candidate we dont need to evoke the genuine need as this candidate has shown it isn't necessary.

But either way I think they should be challenged for false advertising. I wonder is any other applicants would be willing to do so?

But overall this is part of the push by those who want to make it a fact that self identity is as valid as being born female.

So this isn't just about the individual who wants to show this / be this but about all those around who are willing to be part of it.

And it seems Scotland has gone far further than any other part of the UK.

I hope there is a legal challenge rather than some twitter spat which 90% of the population will never see.

[SuperLoudPoppingAction]

The equal boards legislation has a strange definition of what a woman is, but the way Scots law works, you can't extrapolate from that to other legislation afaik

[SuperLoudPoppingAction]

One of the problems with legal challenges is they are so expensive. For women scotland has one on the go. It's cost so much already.

[scalliondays]

I live in Scotland and this is far from alright. Also, a disgraceful attempt to move women of colour out of the category of women. It's another example of politicians showing their contempt for women. I'm looking at spoiling my ballot paper later this week for the first time ever because there is no-one to vote for.

[Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons]

vivariumvivariumsvivaria
A country that cannot give a raped woman whatever the fuck she wants to make her circumstances a bit less shit is not a civilised country.
☝️☝️☝️

[Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons]

Isn’t there a FOI that says that ScotGov considers women to mean mixed sex unless the law explicitly excludes males?
(Of course as it’s so ridiculous hardly any legislation includes the clarification that women = adult human females.)

[NeedToKnow101]

What the absolute fuck! Comparing BME women to Trans. Fuck off!!!!!!!

[TabbyStar]

The protected characteristic of gender reassignment only goes one way afaik, so you can't be discriminated against because you are not undergoing it, only because you are. I'm guessing a male couldn't claim sex discrimination because a male got the role. A woman could, but they would probably argue that MW was a better hire. I'm not sure what that leaves really, though it seems morally dodgy as hell.

I also think the board seems worryingly inexperienced. In England the RCCs go through a quality assurance process, I don't know about Scotland though.

[ArabellaScott]

The Equality Act is not devolved, though, as far as I know the ScotGov can't just change the definitions as it pleases. (IANAL, and they seem to have done exactly this, anyway.)

[DoingItMyself]

Heartbreaking. What is the future for us? Why are people so very stupid?

A country that cannot give a raped woman whatever the fuck she wants to make her circumstances a bit less shit is not a civilised country
As above.

But apparently a transwoman's right to be seen as a woman trumps all natal women's rights to be treated with consideration. Because we don't fucking matter. We don't fucking matter.

[AllThatisSolid]

This is a person who has routinely lied about their birth sex. No GRC AFAIK.

[SuperLoudPoppingAction]

'A country that cannot give a raped woman whatever the fuck she wants to make her circumstances a bit less shit is not a civilised country'
Research indicates that would include the training of enough female forensic examiners to meet demand