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TheFleegleHasLanded · 2021-05-03T10:00:27+00:00

I struggled to even come up with a title for this thread as I am so enraged I know I will get deleted and even banned if I say what I really think. [[https://twitter.com/EdinRapeCrisis/status/1389112490215288832?s=20]]

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 14/09/2021 15:23

Full account of this meeting here:
the-lies-they-tell.org/2021/09/14/mridul-wadhwa-building-intersectional-inclusion-in-rape-crisis-services/

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 14/09/2021 15:29

Not at all alarming ...

Audience question:
"What can we do to be more trans inclusive?"

MW answer:
"Find out what the team thinks. Not, as in, ‘find out what the team thinks to improve things’. But, ‘find out if they are on side in their thinking’.

There is always one who is more quiet than the others. Find out how they feel about transphobic language and negative portrayals of trans people. Can their views be changed, or are they permanent?

We can ‘unlearn’ patriarchy, racism and transphobia."

PenguindreamsofDraco · 14/09/2021 15:36

@littlbrowndog

Someone else chucked out. A QC

Kama is not the woman or barrister to take this lying down. Good Lord, I suspect they won't know what they've unleashed.

MummBraTheEverLeaking · 14/09/2021 15:49

@ItsAllGoingToBeFine

Not at all alarming

...

Audience question:
"What can we do to be more trans inclusive?"

MW answer:
"Find out what the team thinks. Not, as in, ‘find out what the team thinks to improve things’. But, ‘find out if they are on side in their thinking’.

There is always one who is more quiet than the others. Find out how they feel about transphobic language and negative portrayals of trans people. Can their views be changed, or are they permanent?

We can ‘unlearn’ patriarchy, racism and transphobia."

Effing hell

Basically target anyone for interrogation who is doesn't repeat and believe the mantras. Make them repeat and believe the mantras. Make them swear allegiance.

They are supposed to have only ONE job here, and it's not being the fucking thought police. Using their position to start a personal vendetta against anyone with GC views

prudencepuffin · 14/09/2021 16:00

Women began by saying they had legitimate concerns about the Gender Recognition Act, but more and more of them were on the right and ‘very comfortable associating themselves with fascists’. These women wanted to sideline anyone who was not ‘cisgender and white’. It was a difficult task ahead.

Lets hope its a bloody difficult task ahead MW - hope its not too easy for you to chuck women rape victims under the bus.

Leafstamp · 14/09/2021 16:05

Worth reading:

mobile.twitter.com/janeclarejones/status/1437769512468815873

prudencepuffin · 14/09/2021 16:15

MW missed out the bit about "privilege" in that list provided by Jane Clare Jones!

ArabellaScott · 14/09/2021 16:30

There is always one who is more quiet than the others. Find out how they feel about transphobic language and negative portrayals of trans people. Can their views be changed, or are they permanent?

Passmeamenuatthetottenham · 14/09/2021 16:35

That Jean Hatchet thread, eeeeeek!

I listened to that Guilty Feminist podcast with Wadwha and the whole time I was just thinking that the glaringly obvious solution was to create rape crisis centres specifically for transwomen.

Passmeamenuatthetottenham · 14/09/2021 16:36

@ItsAllGoingToBeFine

Not at all alarming

...

Audience question:
"What can we do to be more trans inclusive?"

MW answer:
"Find out what the team thinks. Not, as in, ‘find out what the team thinks to improve things’. But, ‘find out if they are on side in their thinking’.

There is always one who is more quiet than the others. Find out how they feel about transphobic language and negative portrayals of trans people. Can their views be changed, or are they permanent?

We can ‘unlearn’ patriarchy, racism and transphobia."

Whaaaaaaaa?!!!

Datun · 14/09/2021 16:44

@Passmeamenuatthetottenham

That Jean Hatchet thread, eeeeeek!

I listened to that Guilty Feminist podcast with Wadwha and the whole time I was just thinking that the glaringly obvious solution was to create rape crisis centres specifically for transwomen.

That's not validating. So that's never going to be appealing.

The presence of women, and in this case raped women, is crucial. If all the women victims went elsewhere, then that next place would be the desirable place.

It's not the place that's important, it's the women's presence in it.

littlbrowndog · 14/09/2021 16:50

That’s a good read itasallgoingtobefine. 💪💪 but at same time 😢

littlbrowndog · 14/09/2021 17:21

This convo on Twitter sums it up. Rape crisis centres are not for curing women of their transphobia.

Orgasmagorical · 14/09/2021 17:46

I may be very late to the party here but does anyone know if ERC has been reported to the Office of the Scottish Charity Regulator?

Sophoclesthefox · 14/09/2021 18:00

@ItsAllGoingToBeFine

Not at all alarming

...

Audience question:
"What can we do to be more trans inclusive?"

MW answer:
"Find out what the team thinks. Not, as in, ‘find out what the team thinks to improve things’. But, ‘find out if they are on side in their thinking’.

There is always one who is more quiet than the others. Find out how they feel about transphobic language and negative portrayals of trans people. Can their views be changed, or are they permanent?

We can ‘unlearn’ patriarchy, racism and transphobia."

“Are you now, or have you ever been a t*rf?”

Lovely to see that they’ve been paying attention to history. A blacklist of subversives who have to be re-educated is so wonderfully progressive if it’s composed of women with heretical beliefs about sex, and not anything old fashioned and stupid like communism.

Jaysmith71 · 14/09/2021 18:04

Will there be bunk-beds at Re-Education Camp? If so, bagsey on top.

cucumbershed · 14/09/2021 23:01

I worked with this person back in the mid 2000s, when they were at Shakti Women's Aid (I was at a partner organisation). They acted as a female advocate and activist in support for the extremely sensitive subject of DV and BME groups. They also provided training, were invited to speak at events and conferences, participated in consultations etc very much as a female on a very specifically female platform. I can't say I assumed they were anything but female and I don't think others did either, mostly because of the role they were in. I feel totally duped, like the work our team produced back then is now totally meaningless, fraudulent by this person's misrepresentation. I only just stumbled across this thread and I'm so angry!

ArabellaScott · 14/09/2021 23:08

I'm really sorry, cucumber. I'm afraid this person doesn't seem to care who is hurt or upset by their actions, words or presence. Working in a sector supposed to be caring and supportive, I find that quite strange.

Datun · 14/09/2021 23:31

@cucumbershed

I worked with this person back in the mid 2000s, when they were at Shakti Women's Aid (I was at a partner organisation). They acted as a female advocate and activist in support for the extremely sensitive subject of DV and BME groups. They also provided training, were invited to speak at events and conferences, participated in consultations etc very much as a female on a very specifically female platform. I can't say I assumed they were anything but female and I don't think others did either, mostly because of the role they were in. I feel totally duped, like the work our team produced back then is now totally meaningless, fraudulent by this person's misrepresentation. I only just stumbled across this thread and I'm so angry!

i can't imagine the sense of betrayal if you have been let believe that this person is female, in a female environment specifically for women who have been harmed at the hands of men.

It's disgusting.

Virginiarivers · 15/09/2021 04:04

Orgasmagorical, a number of people complained to OSCR about the appointment including me. They basically replied to everyone saying they’d looked into it and saw no issue.

Mridul Wadwha is answerable to absolutely no one in Scotland and knows it. The chief executive of Rape Crisis Scotland is a TRA. The ERC board are all young handmaidens. The Scottish Government are all in thrall to this ideology. I can’t think of anyone at this point who could hold MW to account other than a court case.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 15/09/2021 07:37

The ERC board are all young handmaidens.

I was quite shocked by how young they all were.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 15/09/2021 08:05

For Women Scotland have published the transcript:
twitter.com/ForwomenScot/status/1438030359032172545?s=19

Ereshkigalangcleg · 15/09/2021 08:24

Thank you. That's... concerning to read. What do we know about "SayIT" as an organisation? Other than that their toadying to Wadhwa as if they are the second coming is really nauseating to read.

Helleofabore · 15/09/2021 08:34

So MW says ‘hopefully there'll be others who argue against me, because that's good and healthy’,

Yet those that would argue against them are expelled from the session. I can only assume MW is lying or that the organisation who set this up is not open to debate.

Either way, some very chilling statements made by a male from a perspective of the position of power they have. I really would like them to have an open debate with women who disagree with their philosophy of what care means.

NecessaryScene · 15/09/2021 08:52

I was quite shocked by how young they all were.

Am I misremembering, or was there a big board exodus at the time of Wadhwa's appointment, so these would be people appointed since then?

Any member of the board backing Wadhwa is clearly unfit for the role and should be removed from post. But that would have presumably been a condition of employment.

The entire organisation is being distorted around Wadhwa - anyone who really cares about women is no longer able to get a role there.