It is not feminist to fancy evil people

[MaryHappyWin]

This is an important feminist point.
It is not feminist to support every evil.
Feminism is not about freeing women to commit evil.
Just as no decent person wants every man to support evil.
It is not feminist to support abuse and violence and bullying.
Feminism is not about people supporting abusers,
It is not feminist to fancy evil people.
I think people who are attracted to evil are evil.
If someone supports evil then they are evil.
I am fed up hearing people boast about their sexual attraction to abusive evil men, as if it is something to be proud of.
People who fancy evil people are so smug about supporting abusive men, as if it is a cheeky fetish. It is not a cheeky fetish. It is supporting evil. It is making evil people win.
You cannot be a good feminist if you attracted to abusers,

bullies, rapists, gangsters, child abusers and domestic abusers.

Abusers are evil and can wreck lives with mental illness and trauma.
It is depraved, warped, twisted, trite, smug, narcissistic and selfish to be attracted to evil people.
I read someone suggest that no one should be shamed for their sexual, preferences. But I disagree with that.
There is nothing wrong with being gay or lesbian.
But people should be ashamed to be sexually attracted to evil people, as in abusers.
Supporting rapists and murderers is on the same level as being sexually attracted to child abuse.
People should be shamed for their sexual preferences if their sexual preferences make them support abusive people, out of a sexual desire for evil people.
Sexual attraction is a powerful emotion. If someone is sexually attracted to evil, then they are fundamentally evil people for finding evil sexually attractive. They are no different to child abusers, or bullies or domestic abusers. If someone supports evil then they are evil.

To fancy someone for doing evil, gives support to that evil person, it humiliates the victim. It makes the evil person win.
It is not brave, or profound or mysterious to support evil abusive people. It is cowardly, weak-minded, cliched, creepy and depraved to fancy people for abusing others.
I think many people stay with wife beaters because they are brought up to see abusive violent men as manly and sexy. That is utterly sick. We need to stop people seeing evil as manly and sexy.
Also films that support rape are evil. Films that glamorize or support rape should be banned. Anyone who supports rape is dangerous.

I remember as a child being driven at by a young man, who was accompanied by two laughing girls, as he tried to run me over.
There are tones of examples of people support their bully doing bullying.
Sexual attraction to evil is not romantic it is weak minded and creepy,
There are people who fancy abusive dangerous men, and still think they can see themselves as the voice of common sense. If you fancy abusive people, then you are motivated to support abuse and punish their victims.

I hope my view does not cause anyone any offence. I am interested to see people's replies. What do you think of my view. Should people be free to support abuse?

Vampires are brooding and mysterious and good looking. I'm sure plenty of blokes fancy female vampires. In fact the films going back years have invariably had a load of scantily clad female vampires in them.

In real life men who are brooding, mysterious, good looking... Secretive, only around at night are not a good bet.

Vampires are murderers. The idea that lots of women fancy murderers is a bit bonkers.

@User133847

Yes, I'm sure all these fictional men really appreciate being fancied.

A lot of women were falling over themselves over Ted Bundy when the series came out recently.

Were they feminists?

The whole vampire thing is about sex anyway, so it makes sense for them to be desirable.

The women fancy bad boys idea is very popular in TV and films.

Men going around shooting people Willy nilly and being horrible to everyone and the female star is yay he's great.

I rewatched Indiana Jones the other day the one with the starving village. He's an absolute wanker to that woman. In real life when good looking men are absolute wankers, really nasty dickheads, their prettiness is lessened.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder etc.

Also stranger things later series.

They turned the police guy from a troubled but essentially good man into an out and out arsehole. I have no idea why. And of course the woman fancied him.
She should have gone off with the guy with the ham radio in his garage. I would have

Op, have you just found out your mum fancies Boris Johnson or something?

@PferdeMerde

Op, have you just found out your mum fancies Boris Johnson or something?

Barf.

Hahaha

I would say it's JRM who strikes me as evil.

Surely no one fancies him?

@PferdeMerde

Op, have you just found out your mum fancies Boris Johnson or something?

Boris and Spike have the same coloured hair. Maybe there's something in this.

Oh god way to ruin my fantasy man.
Maybe that's what Bojo is aiming for? Someone needs to set him straight.

*The women fancy bad boys idea is very popular in TV and films.

Men going around shooting people Willy nilly and being horrible to everyone and the female star is yay he's great.*

Then you get men who watch it and think 'i'll be a bastard, women will love it'.

The women fancy bad boys/ evil men is wonky though.

Women who do fancy these men do so generally I assume because they are handsome. And they are never going to meet them.

They aren't as I mentioned fancying the rough looking old bloke down the road with convictions for animal cruelty.

We'll the obvious solution then is for (mostly male) writers to stop writing bad boy parts for (male) good looking actors.

@User133847

*The women fancy bad boys idea is very popular in TV and films.

Men going around shooting people Willy nilly and being horrible to everyone and the female star is yay he's great.*

Then you get men who watch it and think 'i'll be a bastard, women will love it'.

It's a bit chicken or egg situation though isn't it?

A lot of these shows are written by men.
A lot of men subscribe to the idea that "nice guys finish last" and "women love a bad boy". Ofc "nice" turns out to be a lot of the time "I do x,y,z so why won't you sleep with /date me ,you bitch!" . Which isn't very nice at all.

It's a vicious circle.

Or I AM a bastard, women should love it.

I suppose the reason it's so common is

Many things esp USA films really glamourise being big strong violent nasty etc
And of course the male lead needs to have a hot woman to pull

The most corrosive thing though is that time and time again it goes. Woman thinks he's horrible. Then somehow they are thrown together and she has to hang around with him. And she really thinks he's a dick and tells him so. And then CHANGES HER MIND.

What message is this sending to everyone?

@NiceGerbil

Or I AM a bastard, women should love it.

I suppose the reason it's so common is

Many things esp USA films really glamourise being big strong violent nasty etc
And of course the male lead needs to have a hot woman to pull

The most corrosive thing though is that time and time again it goes. Woman thinks he's horrible. Then somehow they are thrown together and she has to hang around with him. And she really thinks he's a dick and tells him so. And then CHANGES HER MIND.

What message is this sending to everyone?

It's Beauty and the Beast for grownups.

Tale as old as time indeed.

A lot of my friends keep telling me to stop ruining Disney for them.

Boris and Spike have the same coloured hair. Maybe there's something in this

Why? Why would you say this? 😩

@TheBuffster

I fancied Spike the vampire from Buffy. He's fictional though, does that count? Oh and Mr Malfoy from the HP films. And Dracula in the Winona Ryder version. And Alan Rickman in anything. Hmmm. Bad feminising.

Was Tom Hardy in Taboo evil?

I suppose telling your own sister to "get that fucking dress off" so that he could fuck her is quite bad.

None of the characters mentioned are actually all evil whatever that means.
They all have good and bad, even the vampires.
And of course the actors playing them are good looking.
Some women did write to and turn up at court to flirt with the nightstalker, that is strange because he didn't have any redeeming features at all and wasnt physically attractive either, he had rotten teeth and stank.
A woman in the documertary on netflix calls them 'dumb bitches' or some such.
I hate what the duffer brothers did to Hoppers character, he was awful to Eleven and Joyce.
They went the other way with Steve, Mike is a bit of a whiner.

"get that fucking dress off"
Jaime Lannister would condone it.

Yes Josie. Hopper. Why?

He was a good character. Had his issues. Was essentially kind. Did his best. Tried to understand people. Etc etc

Suddenly. Callous violent man who is awful to women and girls.

Why???

I'm more hacked off about people who choose to commit evil acts than those who feel attraction to them or are in a relationship with them.

(Back to Buffy now)

I think you'll find that women are the root of all evil.

It doesnt make sense and there doesn't seem to be a catalyst for the change that I can think of.
I imagine he will be even worse when he gets out of the Russian nuclear compound place hes in now.

@MaryHappyWin

This is an important feminist point. It is not feminist to support every evil. Feminism is not about freeing women to commit evil. Just as no decent person wants every man to support evil. It is not feminist to support abuse and violence and bullying. Feminism is not about people supporting abusers, It is not feminist to fancy evil people. I think people who are attracted to evil are evil. If someone supports evil then they are evil. I am fed up hearing people boast about their sexual attraction to abusive evil men, as if it is something to be proud of. People who fancy evil people are so smug about supporting abusive men, as if it is a cheeky fetish. It is not a cheeky fetish. It is supporting evil. It is making evil people win. You cannot be a good feminist if you attracted to abusers, bullies, rapists, gangsters, child abusers and domestic abusers.

Abusers are evil and can wreck lives with mental illness and trauma.
It is depraved, warped, twisted, trite, smug, narcissistic and selfish to be attracted to evil people.
I read someone suggest that no one should be shamed for their sexual, preferences. But I disagree with that.
There is nothing wrong with being gay or lesbian.
But people should be ashamed to be sexually attracted to evil people, as in abusers.
Supporting rapists and murderers is on the same level as being sexually attracted to child abuse.
People should be shamed for their sexual preferences if their sexual preferences make them support abusive people, out of a sexual desire for evil people.
Sexual attraction is a powerful emotion. If someone is sexually attracted to evil, then they are fundamentally evil people for finding evil sexually attractive. They are no different to child abusers, or bullies or domestic abusers. If someone supports evil then they are evil.

To fancy someone for doing evil, gives support to that evil person, it humiliates the victim. It makes the evil person win.
It is not brave, or profound or mysterious to support evil abusive people. It is cowardly, weak-minded, cliched, creepy and depraved to fancy people for abusing others.
I think many people stay with wife beaters because they are brought up to see abusive violent men as manly and sexy. That is utterly sick. We need to stop people seeing evil as manly and sexy.
Also films that support rape are evil. Films that glamorize or support rape should be banned. Anyone who supports rape is dangerous.

I remember as a child being driven at by a young man, who was accompanied by two laughing girls, as he tried to run me over.
There are tones of examples of people support their bully doing bullying.
Sexual attraction to evil is not romantic it is weak minded and creepy,
There are people who fancy abusive dangerous men, and still think they can see themselves as the voice of common sense. If you fancy abusive people, then you are motivated to support abuse and punish their victims.

I hope my view does not cause anyone any offence. I am interested to see people's replies. What do you think of my view. Should people be free to support abuse?

Ya just couldn't have made that shorter with the word evil in it less?