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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

For Women Scotland lose case

362 replies

PandorasMailbox · 23/03/2021 12:16

Absolutely gutted for them Sad

twitter.com/ForwomenScot/status/1374330580473630721

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Sexnotgender · 25/03/2021 20:26

@MichelleofzeResistance

I wonder how many perceived girls have been 'trafficked' for FGM and turned out not in fact to be possible candidates for it? Angry

How many male born children have been accidentally put forward for FMG? Statistically. Ball park.

Oooh, tough one. I’d hazard a guess at a statistically insignificant number. Perhaps even zero.
MissBarbary · 25/03/2021 20:28

Blackman is getting an absolute and well deserved thrashing on Twitter.

Sexnotgender · 25/03/2021 20:30

@MissBarbary

Blackman is getting an absolute and well deserved thrashing on Twitter.
She’s a fucking MP. Surely there are parliamentary standards she needs to uphold?
toffeebutterpopcorn · 25/03/2021 20:38

@MissBarbary

Blackman is getting an absolute and well deserved thrashing on Twitter.
Good. Although she is probably complaining about all the meanies and trolls.
MissBarbary · 25/03/2021 20:43

I wonder how many perceived girls have been 'trafficked' for FGM and turned out not in fact to be possible candidates for it?

How many male born children have been accidentally put forward for FMG? Statistically. Ball park

Oooh, tough one. I’d hazard a guess at a statistically insignificant number. Perhaps even zero

By "perceived girls" did she mean children who are "perceived" to be girls, because they have vulvas, but really identify as boys?

MichelleofzeResistance · 25/03/2021 21:16

That would imply she thinks that if they were being wrongly perceived as girls they should have been let off? Or that someone should have asked their gender choice first? Or that she thinks anyone would care what a girl identified as and take it into account in this situation?

Is it only me that finds it terrifying that people in power really are this stupid?

ArabellaScott · 25/03/2021 21:33

Is it only me that finds it terrifying that people in power really are this stupid?

No.

NonnyMouse1337 · 25/03/2021 21:53

Is it only me that finds it terrifying that people in power really are this stupid?

No.

MissBarbary · 25/03/2021 22:00

@MichelleofzeResistance

That would imply she thinks that if they were being wrongly perceived as girls they should have been let off? Or that someone should have asked their gender choice first? Or that she thinks anyone would care what a girl identified as and take it into account in this situation?

Is it only me that finds it terrifying that people in power really are this stupid?

To answer your first set of questions- no idea. A few people on Twitter had a stab at trying to work out what she was on about (and are probably now in a dark room with a wet towel over their foreheads)

And to answer your second- No, it isn't just you.

MissBarbary · 25/03/2021 23:54

Sorry wrong thread

MargaritaPie · 26/03/2021 10:38

But the hate crime based on sex went ahead did it not? Or is this something else?

Thelnebriati · 26/03/2021 11:49

No, Scotland voted against including sex in their hate crime legislation.

www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/baroness-kennedy-urged-to-have-sex-added-to-hate-crime-bill-urgently/ar-BB1eKOkZ

ArabellaScott · 26/03/2021 11:56

Scotland have applied the same reasoning as the Green Party - protected characteristics are protected, but women are specifically excluded.

OhHolyJesus · 14/04/2021 17:14

Appeal is to go ahead!

Update on Stop the Scottish Government redefining "woman" to include men

Having spoken to our lawyers and considered the financial implications and the appetite for this case, we have decided that we will appeal the decision on the Gender Representation on Public Boards Act. Our legal team is confident that the judgement is legally challengeable.
We have already seen this law cited by lobbyists hoping to roll back women's rights, and we have seen an MP claim that she would have no issue with a “gender balanced” board made up of 50% men and 50% transwomen. The Scottish Government also take the view that men who self-identify as women, are women - and this will be the basis of future policies. Therefore, we feel we have a duty to Scottish women to continue to fight: we cannot leave this law on the statute books to the detriment of women.
We would rather we did not have to seek redress from the courts, but as the Scottish Government continues to refuse to engage with women, we have little choice. Unchallenged, we feel this would only embolden those who wish to undermine Equality Act 2010 - we understand that the Scottish Green Party are now demanding the adoption of the flawed Yogyakarta Principles into Scots Law.
A reclaiming motion was formally marked on 9th April and we will leave open our fundraiser. Thank you so much for your support thus far, we cannot do this without you.

334bu · 14/04/2021 17:22

Just saw this. More neep allotmenteering

Olderstyle1 · 14/04/2021 17:24

Yay! Go women! Thank you for standing up against this misogyny ForWomenScot. Sheros the lot of you. Flowers

Shewantsitall · 14/04/2021 17:26

Great news. Thank you FWS - will support in whatever way I can.

SheldonesqueHasGotTheWeevils · 14/04/2021 17:29

Okay wee nippy.

I get that this might stick in your craw a wee bit, but.

If you are the feminist you claim, now might be the time to put your hand in your pocket hen...

You helped us into this mess after all.

malloo · 14/04/2021 17:29

Well done FWS, let's keep fighting! Off to dig.

DialSquare · 14/04/2021 17:30

Just seen the email. Off to dig now.

terryleather · 14/04/2021 17:44

Thank you thank you thank you FWS ! Flowers

Iamhangingin · 14/04/2021 18:03

That's great. I wish them all the best. It does set a precedent which could have more impact in other situations so it should be really looked at and discussed.

I don't think women in Scotland have been properly consulted. If I honestly thought most women in Scotland were onboard with this I'd be unhappy, but I'd be okay with it because we live in a democratic society. There are lots of laws or government policies that I disagree with but I accept. This reclassification of what a woman means just seems so important but we don't appear to have had a proper, sensible conversation about it

stumbledin · 14/04/2021 18:21

More power to you and all who are taking on this work!

Terranean · 14/04/2021 19:55

Will dig up a little more until next pay day!