Jolene, and other anti-feminist anthems

[StealthPolarBear]

Just to say this is a light-hearted chat thread.
I love jolene, sing it with a minor adaptation every time I'm cleaning the windows. I have no idea about the background, but it must come near the top of the least feminist songs ever!
Another which I've just heard is sheryl crow, strong enough. "lie to me, I promise I'll believe, lie to me, but please don't leave"
Brilliant song, awful lyrics :)
Any others?

I honestly don’t think lay down Sally is creepy! Some of these songs are just about attraction and/or sex, which I don’t see anything wrong with at all. I like sex and I like to have a lot of it. Doesn’t make me creepy. That song has got kindness in it too - it’s not like he’s even saying ‘just lie down here and let me fuck you, already!’ he’s saying rest here in my arms, lay down your worries, let’s explore love under the stars etc.

I never thought it was either. And re -reading the lyrics...

We're outside looking up at the stars, lay down, don't hurry off, I've been trying to talk to you, I'd love to see the dawning sun on your face!

The only bit that is a bit blech is that he is insisting in the face of her trying to leave and is saying he doesn't want her to ever leave.

But he hasn't mentioned sex, just that he wants time t tlak and try and convince her he's The One!

And its written by a woman from a man's perspective!

Yeah but often that’s how relationships start - the person has got your eye, your interest has been piqued, you really ought to leave the party/go home now but you’re going to hang around and spend some more time with him or her. Nothing creepy or wrong with that.

Not sure if this has been posted but it surely has to win the anti feminist medal! Lyrics:
Hey, little girl
Comb your hair, fix your make-up
Soon he will open the door
Don't think because
There's a ring on your finger
You needn't try any more
For wives should always be lovers, too
Run to his arms the moment he comes home to you
I'm warning you
Day after day
There are girls at the office
And men will always be men
Don't send him off
With your hair still in curlers
You may not see him again
For wives should always be lovers, too
Run to his arms the moment he comes home to you
He's almost here
Hey, little girl
Better wear something pretty
Something you'd wear to go to the city
And dim all the lights
Pour the wine, start the music
Time to get ready for love
Oh, time to get ready,
Time to get ready
Time to get ready
For love.

@Ninkanink

Yeah but often that’s how relationships start - the person has got your eye, your interest has been piqued, you really ought to leave the party/go home now but you’re going to hang around and spend some more time with him or her. Nothing creepy or wrong with that.

I'm not disagreeing with that

I like the song! Or maybe, I like Marcella Detroit!

Heh yes I was agreeing with you and expounding a bit! 🙂

Step off the expounding plank!

😄

One just popped up on my iTunes...She Bangs by Ricky Martin.

So its all her fault that you cant control yourself then mate? "A woman's got one thing on her mind". She certainly does and it aint you.

In fairness I don’t think he’s got lady Lovin on his mind either...

Woman to Woman by Shirley Brown
Beautiful song, but I don’t like the premise of the song. The song is about a woman whose man is cheating on her with a woman named Barbara. She phones Barbara and warns her to keep away from her man.

@bonbonours

The song that pisses me off most and makes me change the radio station is "It wasn't me" by Shaggy. Basically laughing about cheating on his girlfriend.

Thought that was the tory anthem

@CornishPastyDownUnder

I got into rap in the late 80's-know most of the words by heart and love it all lol but some standout lyrics are: Flavor Flav&Cube-im only out for 1thang(borderline comedy lyrics : ) IceCube-Look who's burnin'(good STD message tho). Pretty much heaps of old school rap tho feel I can barely write this for being disloyal what I was raised on and the tunes/lyrics slay..the days when BigT&A bikini/hot tub vids were the go.. ODB-plenty(but damn he was up there with the best) Notorius B.I.G hypnotise. OPP-yep not a good look from either side of the fence. Ludacris/DMX/Mystikal..heaps..but not shy in sayin it like it is for objectifying guys and girls so im on fence here- R.Kelly(scuse me while i throw up)

Shout out to the ladies:
Khia-my neck, my back
Nicki
Megan Thee Stallion, Cardi,
Saweetie &Doja Cat-love Best Friend lyrics

Also Notorious B.I.G, 'Want that old thing back': "Hit you with the d*k, make your kidneys shift" , "Guaranteed to f*k her till her nose bleeds And "Here to shatter your bladder" - such a charmer.

Rammstein, 'Pussy'. If you've seen the stage show, that makes it 10x worse.

Top, or bottom, of the pile for me is The Macc Lads' 'Fluffy Pup' 🤮

Having read some of the thread, the Marriage of Figaro is a hoot from start to finish (that's without the disturbing stuff about the castratos and the Cerubino character). If there's an anti-feminist opera for me, Butterfly has it. Every sentiment it contains is really grim. In any case it's boring. Woman waits for absent husband to come back. 💤Again, I get that it's different times (although a lot more modern than the Mozart) but sorry Puccini, not your finest hour.

Unsurprisingly my favourite popular opera heroine by a wide margin is Carmen.

that's without the disturbing stuff about the castratos and the Cerubino character

Cherubino was written for and performed by mezzo sopranos, although apparently "mezzo" isn't a term Mozart used. It was never a castrato role although English Opera (I think) have cast it as a counter tenor.

It ain't so much a question of not knowin' what to do;
I've know'd what's right an' wrong since I've been ten!
I've heerd a lot of stories, and I reckon they are true,
About how girls are put upon by men.
I know I mustn't fall into the pit,
But when I'm with a feller.....I furgit!
I'm jist a girl who cain't say no,
I'm in a turrible fix
I always say "come on, le's go"
Jist when I orta say nix!
When a person tries to kiss a girl,
I know she orta give his face a smack.
But as soon as someone kisses me,
I somehow, sorta, wanta kiss him back!
I'm jist a fool when lights are low
I cain't be prissy and quaint
I ain't the type that can faint
How c'n I be whut I ain't?
I cain't say no!
Whut you goin' to do when a feller gits flirty, and starts to talk purty?
Whut you goin' to do?
S'posin' 'at he says 'at yer lips're like cherries, er roses, er berries?
Whut you goin' to do?
S'posin' 'at he says 'at you're sweeter 'n cream,
And he's gotta have cream er die?
Whut you goin' to do when he talks that way,
Spit in his eye?
I'm jist a girl who cain't say no,
Kissin's my favourite food
with or without the mistletoe
i'm in a holiday mood.
other girls are coy and hard to catch
but other girls aint havin any fun
every time i lose a wrestling match
i have a funny feeling that i won.