Jolene, and other anti-feminist anthems

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Just to say this is a light-hearted chat thread.
I love jolene, sing it with a minor adaptation every time I'm cleaning the windows. I have no idea about the background, but it must come near the top of the least feminist songs ever!
Another which I've just heard is sheryl crow, strong enough. "lie to me, I promise I'll believe, lie to me, but please don't leave"
Brilliant song, awful lyrics :)
Any others?

IDK if anyone's posted this, but lesbian version of Jolene. I like it.

There's a YouTube cottage industry in Jolene re-writes !

This is Dolly at Glastonbury including rather nice footage of the security team joining in.

I had no idea it was about a real person, I just thought it was a series of misogynistic caricatures of what he thought goes on in our silly little heads

Even if you didn't know it was about a real trans woman it seems obvious to me that it's a very sympathetic song about someone not in a good place.

I got into rap in the late 80's-know most of the words by heart and love it all lol but some standout lyrics are: Flavor Flav&Cube-im only out for 1thang(borderline comedy lyrics : )
IceCube-Look who's burnin'(good STD message tho).
Pretty much heaps of old school rap tho feel I can barely write this for being disloyal what I was raised on and the tunes/lyrics slay..the days when BigT&A bikini/hot tub vids were the go..
ODB-plenty(but damn he was up there with the best)
Notorius B.I.G hypnotise.
OPP-yep not a good look from either side of the fence.
Ludacris/DMX/Mystikal..heaps..but not shy in sayin it like it is for objectifying guys and girls so im on fence here-
R.Kelly(scuse me while i throw up)

Shout out to the ladies:
Khia-my neck, my back
Nicki
Megan Thee Stallion, Cardi,
Saweetie &Doja Cat-love Best Friend lyrics

I always thought Candy was about Cocaine....

@MissBarbary - nobody told the Countess to forgive her husband. She chose to, and she made it conditional that he had to keep his dick to himself. She had made a point to him that she had engineered the whole thing along with Susanna to show him for the old fool he was, and reminded him that once she had been lusted after also. (And that she was not that old, not stupid, unobservant, or entirely subservient.). Also, he'd made such a total fool of himself, nobody'd be interested in fooling around with the old fart after this humiliating display he'd made of himself in public anyway.

MissBarbary- nobody told the Countess to forgive her husband

My point which you seem to have missed is on here she would have been told to leave him.

LTC?

PMSL @theThreeofWeevils 😂

Haven't RTFT, but has anyone mentioned Babooshka by Kate Bush? About an older woman who sets a trap for her (presumably inattentive) husband, and he falls for it hook, line and sinker! A bit like a more sinister version of the Pina Colada song! The lyrics give the impression that the relationship has broken down over the years and she feels really bitter about it. Not sure if it qualifies as a feminist song, but the character in it certainly isn't taking any crap!

I love her in the video with massive sword and terrifying stare looking like she means business

I've never heard the song, but thought that Babooshka was about a doll.

Before Max Bygraves recorded it, when it was performed at the Theatre Workshop, 'Fings Ain't What They Used T'Be' had different lyrics:
edited by MNHQ at OP's request

"In 1959 a new song appeared called Fings Ain’t Wot They Used T’Be. It came from a new production of the same name that debuted in Stratford, East London, and was written by a talented composer and lyricist called Lionel Bart. The combination of the words and music of that song was tuneful, witty, hard hitting – and is now almost completely forgotten. One could also argue that they were in extremely bad taste.
The production was quite a success in its day and it transferred to a run at the Garrick Theatre. Amongst the performers were a young, but already well established, Barbara Windsor and a, then comparatively unknown,
....The fact that this was in a jolly song was probably intended by Lionel Bart to really make it hit home all the more. Bart came from the East End and probably would have been aware of the realities of the day."

www.londonreconnections.com/2014/fings-aint-wot-used-tbe/

I'm sure I had a recording of the original song by Sid James.

Thay should read " then comparatively unknown, Yootha Joyce "

I think I heard Kate b saying she just liked the word Baboushka but didn't know it's Russian meaning ( I thought it was a granny figure?)

..its Russian meaning..

Babooshka means old lady or grandmother. The dolls are called Matryoshka dolls.

For all those commenting how great Dolly parton is, have they forgotten the comedy musical "The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas" 'cos prostitution is such fun!

I’ve also not forgotten her altruism, her giving to literacy charities, money for covid vaccine research,other individual acts of giving to the impoverished

So actually in terms of being decent, Dolly is v commendable

Yes, I also read that Kate Bush didn’t know the meaning of the word but had a friend with a cat called babooshka. I love that song so much.

@justilou1

I always thought Candy was about Cocaine....

I thought Heroin.

To be fair, I thought most Velvet Underground songs were about Heroin.

I'm fairly sure Patti Smith wrote 'Because the Night' with Bruce Springsteen.

The Beautiful South- don't marry her.
I hate it so much!

They redeemed themselves with "A Little Time"

Not RTFT, so probably already been mentioned
Tammy Wynette, Stand By Your Man.
"Cause after all, he's just a man" - forgive him,
Get to fuck lol, have some respect for yourself

Eagles mentioned upthread, remember hearing "One of These Nights" (didn't realize it was the Eagles) a lot when it was charting and being especially grossed out by this bit

I've been searching for the daughter of the devil himself
I've been searching for an angel in white
I've been waiting for a woman who's a little of both
And I can feel her but she's nowhere in sight

and wondering what the hell do men expect/want from women?
and the "coming right behind ya, swear I'm gonna find ya"
creepy

Eric Clapton, You creepy old fart “Lay Down Sally”

There is nothing that is wrong
In wanting you to stay here with me
I know you've got somewhere to go
But won't you make yourself at home and stay with me?
And don't you ever leave
Lay down, Sally, and rest here in my arms
Don't you think you want someone to talk to?
Lay down, Sally, no need to leave so soon
I've been trying all night long just to talk to you
Sun ain't nearly on the rise
We still got the moon and stars above
Underneath the velvet skies, love is all that matters
Won't you stay with me? Don't you ever leave
Lay down, Sally, and rest here in my arms
Don't you think you want someone to talk to?
Lay down, Sally, and no need to leave so soon
I've been trying all night long just to talk to you
I long to see the morning light
Color in your face so dreamily
So don't you go and say goodbye
You can lay your worries down and stay with me
And don't you ever leave
Lay down, Sally, and rest here in my arms
Don't you think you want someone to talk to?
Lay down, Sally, there's no need to leave so soon
I've been trying all night long just to talk to you
Lay down, Sally, and rest here in my arms
Don't you think you want someone to talk to?
Lay down, Sally, there's no need to leave so soon
I've been trying all night long just to talk to you

That was written by Marcella Detroit, Shakespeares Sister etc.