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Apparently Rupert Grint respects JKR but still felt he needed to speak out

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CaribGrackle · 20/03/2021 18:33

in support of transgender people when all the other Harry Potter ingrates were piling in.

Daily Mail link

"But yeah, I think also you can have huge respect for someone and still disagree with things like that...

Sometimes silence is even louder. I felt like I had to because I think it was important to. I mean, I don’t want to talk about all that… Generally, I’m not an authority on the subject"

Clearly not.

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BaronessWrongCrowd · 20/03/2021 21:44

With ‘friends’ like Rupert, who needs enemies huh?

ArabellaScott · 20/03/2021 21:47

That's a pitiful scuttly wee reverse ferret there, Rupert.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/03/2021 21:51

I think you all might be due another "are we the baddies?" moment.

Never mind us, you concentrate on your own.

teawamutu · 20/03/2021 21:54

Sanctimonious little wankbadger.

OverByYer · 20/03/2021 21:54

Never a good idea to bite the hand that feeds you. Especially when your only known for that one role that you had because of it. Diddums

teawamutu · 20/03/2021 21:59

@Juliesipadwillcallyouback

Hilarious how you assume anyone who is pro trans is a horrible person. All he did was stand up for a vulnerable minority and here you are with all the childish name-calling.

Actually, it's because he just stood by and watched as JKR was subjected to disgusting sexually and physically violent abuse, as well as death threats, and didn't even have the bollocks to call them out when he finally did 'speak up'.

This. Don't GAF what he thinks (or doesn't, more likely) but he said nothing as the woman who made his under-talented ass massively rich and famous was deluged with rape and death threats for expressing an opinion.

Nothing but contempt for him.

ArcheryAnnie · 20/03/2021 22:01

Hilarious how you assume anyone who is pro trans is a horrible person.

He's not "pro-trans" @Shizuku, not least because he's here admitted he knows fuck-all about the issue. What many of us have a problem with was when he revealed himself to be anti-JKR, again when he knew fuck-all about the issue.

It's nice that he's trying to backtrack here, don't get me wrong. But it would've been even nicer if he hadn't said anything horrible to backtrack from in the first place.

What about you, @Shizuku? Are you pro all the rape and death threats that JKR got? Is that the side you align yourself with?

nauticant · 20/03/2021 22:06

After this, surely there's now room in the lexicon for reverse weasel.

FightingTheFoo · 20/03/2021 22:36

@Shizuku

Hilarious how you assume anyone who is pro trans is a horrible person. All he did was stand up for a vulnerable minority and here you are with all the childish name-calling.

Meanwhile, GC "feminist" Julie Burchill is outed as an outright racist and misogynist, and you have people on here defending her and saying she occasional goes a bit far.

I think you all might be due another "are we the baddies?" moment.

Hilarious how you assume anyone who is pro women is a horrible person. All they do is stand up for a vulnerable minority and here you are with all the childish name-calling.

Meanwhile, trans rights advocate David Challenor is outed as an outright child rapist and paedophile, and you have people online defending him and saying any criticism of Challenor and his family is "transphobia".

I think you all might be due another "are we the baddies?" moment.

yourhairiswinterfire · 20/03/2021 22:48

But yeah, I think also you can have huge respect for someone and still disagree with things like that...

Hmm, are they allowed to still have respect for JKR though? I thought that was wrongthink?

Eddie Redmayne was the same, saying all the 'right' things, making all the right noises. Then he saw how bad the abuse JKR received was, sent her a private note and went public about that, saying that rape and death threats, the vitriol, was absolutely disgusting.

He got a hammering on Twitter for that. He's not on there himself, I don't think, but boy were they frothing about him. Yes, they got the pitchforks out because he said abuse that included rape and death threats are disgusting.

So, bad guys? If being a 'good guy' or on the 'right side' means you have to at best pretend you don't see that abuse going on, or at worst actually condone threatening to rape or murder someone, that'll be a hell fucking nope from me.

SunsetBeetch · 20/03/2021 22:58

Fuck off, Rupert.

SunsetBeetch · 20/03/2021 22:59

And for the umpteenth time:

Julie Burchill is not a GC feminist

But then you know that.

ArcheryAnnie · 20/03/2021 23:03

FightingTheFoo spot on.

BraveBananaBadge · 20/03/2021 23:25

He says "I don't want to talk about it"and it probably will stop there, is the thing - it won't follow him around, or Robbie Coltrane, or Ralph Fiennes. It will never define them.

JKR (and, probably, Emma Watson really) will be associated with and judged by their thoughts and stances on these issues forever. Strange that, isn't it?

AdHominemNonSequitur · 20/03/2021 23:34

It's breadcrumbs, but still. Well done Rupert. We know what you really want to say chick.

The faith militant are really, really mean, so I understand why are afraid.

PotholeHellhole · 21/03/2021 06:40

You keep going on about Julie Burchill.

Would you like me to start countering that with all the trans rights people who are also rapists, child abusers or convicted of downloading images of child abuse I know of? Honestly, were I you, I would steer clear away from legitimising "guilt by association" as a debate tactic.

GCAcademic · 21/03/2021 07:03

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WoolOfBat · 21/03/2021 07:05

If we are doing guilt by association....

I am going out on a limb here but will suggest that the proportion of TRAs linked to child abuse if far bigger than GC women.

I will even stretch to proposing that death and rape threats are more common from TRAs than from GC women....

EdgeOfACoin · 21/03/2021 07:13

@Justanotherworkingmom

The responses on here are lamentable.

God help that someone has a view that differs from yours.

I'm not entirely sure Grint has read her essay. It doesn't come across that way.

So how much is a person's opinion worth, when they aren't informed on the issues and seem to have misunderstood what JKR actually wrote?

GCAcademic · 21/03/2021 07:19

@Justanotherworkingmom

The responses on here are lamentable.

God help that someone has a view that differs from yours.

I’m fine with people having an opinion that’s different to mine. What I’m not fine with is someone voicing an opinion on something they admit they know nothing about when they know very well that they are encouraging death and rape threats to an individual.
SunsetBeetch · 21/03/2021 08:26

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Skyliner001 · 21/03/2021 08:27

@OverByYer

Never a good idea to bite the hand that feeds you. Especially when your only known for that one role that you had because of it. Diddums
That is such a despicable attitude to take. So you can't disagree with somebody just because they wrote the book which meant that you got the job that made you famous. Horrific, this is how abuse happens, and is allowed to continue to happen. This "don't bite the hand that feeds you" mentality.
Clymene · 21/03/2021 08:37

@Skyliner001 - are you accusing JK Rowling of being an abuser? That's a pretty serious allegation to make Hmm

EdgeOfACoin · 21/03/2021 08:39

So you can't disagree with somebody just because they wrote the book which meant that you got the job that made you famous.

Of course Grint has the right to disagree with JKR. However, the point is, he doesn't seem to understand what the issues are or what JKR's argument actually is.

I agree with you that it is dangerous to say nobody should disagree with the person who 'made them famous' or whatever, but in this specific situation, he doesn't appear to have even paid her the courtesy of looking into the issues. He just seems to have jumped on a passing bandwagon.

Skyliner001 · 21/03/2021 08:52

@Clymene Ypure wilfully misunderstanding me. Of course she's not an abuser. I've heard nothing like that about JK.

What I am saying is that if you teach people that they 'can not bite the hands that feed them' you teach them to prioritise that over speaking out.

This could range from a differing opinion, as in this case.

Or a young woman for example, being abused by a director on a film set.... look the Harvey Weinstein case up.