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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

This never happens - man jailed for rape and attempted rape in women’s toilets

110 replies

IDanielRadcliffe · 17/03/2021 18:14

news.sky.com/story/former-bristol-city-footballer-who-targeted-women-in-nightclubs-jailed-for-rape-offences-12248824

“He has on two separate occasions subjected women to violent acts in what should be a safe and private space.”

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WhoWh0 · 22/03/2021 23:22

@gardenbird48 yes, because they have respect for the fact they are biological males doing a part of their work in a space that is considered to be exclusively for biological females. They respect that right to safe spaces and privacy for biological females. I often wonder why all humans don’t respect that.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 23/03/2021 07:51

Oh yes! Those nasty male cleaners who put a sign at the door announcing their presence.

Are you suggesting transwoman should do this, for parity. Or all men with intent?

Juliesipadwillcallyouback · 23/03/2021 08:08

You should start a campaign to ban male cleaners from women's toilets. Funny how that never seems to come up on this site.

What a gotcha!

Oh wait, no its not because if male cleaners are in a women's toilets there are always clear signs telling women this so that women can decide what to do, or the toilets are closed completely whilst the cleaning is carried out.

CongealedCrags · 23/03/2021 08:28

@Juliesipadwillcallyouback

You should start a campaign to ban male cleaners from women's toilets. Funny how that never seems to come up on this site.

What a gotcha!

Oh wait, no its not because if male cleaners are in a women's toilets there are always clear signs telling women this so that women can decide what to do, or the toilets are closed completely whilst the cleaning is carried out.

Thus giving women the choice to consent to being in an enclosed space in a vulnerable position with a man.
Beowulfa · 23/03/2021 08:35

In normal times I regularly go swimming in my lunch hour at work. Whenever a plumber (invariably male) needs to look at the rubbish showers, a female member of sports centre staff comes in and alerts everyone in the changing room, checks they're ok with it, and then escorts the plumber in, whilst letting every woman who subsequently enters from poolside or the corridor about the situation. If it's a long job they close the wet changing rooms completely. This is how decent-minded people approach the concept of single sex spaces.

bd67thSaysReinstateLangCleg · 21/04/2021 19:10

@Gottalife

So to sum up this logic.

Men attack women in women's toilets.
Women attack women in women's toilets.
Solution : Ban trans women.

  1. People born with penises commit over 95% of violent attacks, both against each other and against people born with vulvas. We can protect the people born with vulvas from 95% of violent attacks by making it socially-unacceptable for the people born with penises to enter the spaces designated for the exclusive use of the people born with vulvas and by normalising the right of the vulva-havers to challenge anyone perceived as a penis-haver. My own experience of being challenged is that it's no big deal because as soon as I reply, my voice gives the game away.
  2. People born with penises commit over 98% of sexual attacks, mostly against people born with vulvas. Penis-in-vagina rape is unique amongst sex attacks in that it can leave many of the victims pregnant. We can protect the vulva-havers from both forced pregnancy and most sexual assaults by having single-sex spaces as outlined under (1).
  3. These measures, like all security precautions, are not watertight. They make life safer for vulva-havers than it otherwise would be, so they are still worth having.
ifIwerenotanandroid · 21/04/2021 19:47

@AskingQuestionsAllTheTime

It's strange how stupid women are always assumed to be, really. I have never known a woman who was unable to tell a male person from a female person, even in poor light and at a distance, yet women are expected constantly to be deceived by men about what the man's sex is, at close quarters.
Isn't this because it's generally males who assume that women are unable to tell males from females?

And that's because males themselves have more difficulty telling the difference, & they can't imagine that anyone's better than they are?

As women endlessly point out, women HAVE to be able to identify a male at first glance, for safety reasons. Men don't have to, so they don't get enough practice & it's not as important to them.

Males have no idea what it's like to be female.

Naunet · 21/04/2021 20:23

They are women. I don't think it matters how that sounds to you - the only thing that matters is what is

Based on what? Make up? Clothing choices? A feeling in their heads? A fluffy lady brain that is invisible to science? What makes a woman if not biology?

AdHominemNonSequitur · 21/04/2021 21:55

@Naunet

They are women. I don't think it matters how that sounds to you - the only thing that matters is what is

Based on what? Make up? Clothing choices? A feeling in their heads? A fluffy lady brain that is invisible to science? What makes a woman if not biology?

Only because gender ideology changed the definition of woman from adult human female to feminine gender identity without consulting any adult human females. I don't consent to the redefinition.
Naunet · 22/04/2021 07:50

@AdHominemNonSequitur
I’m yet to see a definition of this ‘woman gender’ too, how is that defined, if not by stereotypes? How do you know if you’re the man gender or woman gender?!
Questions we’ll never get answers to I guess...

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