Multiple women murdered in Atlanta

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I've just come across this:

www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/at-least-four-asian-women-shot-dead-at-two-day-spas-in-atlanta/ar-BB1eEUq4

But the update suggests six Asian women across multiple locations, plus one white woman and a white man. I'm not sure that Asian in the US means the same ethnicity it does here, but regardless, that's women of a particular group targeted. It can't be a coincidence.

This is horrendous.

There are no words that can express my rage.

Just none.

Where are the fucking libfems with their sex work is empowering now?

Where is their rage?

I haven't fully caught up on this story but when I read about it first thing today I felt it was an attack on women first and foremost and not related to ethnicity. The type of establishment could only mean women were the targets, and yet the reporting was around 'some of the victims being women' and that is was primarily racially motivated. Seems like my reading of it was correct.

@HermitsLife

I was thinking that too MrsPrachett when black men are killed by the police for sitting in their own car, a white man can commit pre meditated, cold blooded mass murder and get treated with pity by the police. And yes the many black brown and indigenous American women who go missing every year and nothing is done about it. It disgusts me.

Remember Dylan Roof, he murdered several black people, he was calmly arrested and taken to burger king on the way to the police station.

He is a neo-nazi, he intended to start a race war, he was not charged with terrorism.

It appears that the killer has being trying to "justify" his crimes by claiming that the shootings were not racially motivated but that he wanted to ‘eliminate’ locations he saw as ‘temptations’ for his sex addiction

I just saw a tweet from a Canadian blogger that I follow that sums up the reaction quite well:-

"he's not racist, he just sees Asian women as inherent sexual temptations," is not the watertight argument you think it is

twitter.com/VeryBadLlama/status/1372247750063104001

Well, sadly, this looks like an intersectional example of misogyny. People have been increasing attacks on Asians here in the US and the attacker claims he was upset about his sex addiction so he, sadly, punishes women.

1st Rule of Misogyny: Women are responsible for what men do.

Wow that is well put. I'll be following that Llama blogger.

Thats who I was thinking of Simon and poor Philando Castillo. Shot to death at point blank range in his car while his girlfriend and her daughter were sitting with him while complying with police instructions.

Sorry for the derail. I'm really angry about what happened to these women. So many intersections of disadvantage that mean police just see that as collateral in some poor lamb's existential crisis, rather than a terrorist act against minority women.

@SimonJT

Asian hate crimes have increased by 115% in the States in the last year.

Recently an 89 year old Chinese woman was slapped and set on fire in Brooklyn.

My god. I knew it had increased, but not by that much. That's a shocking statistic.

@Doyoumind

I haven't fully caught up on this story but when I read about it first thing today I felt it was an attack on women first and foremost and not related to ethnicity. The type of establishment could only mean women were the targets, and yet the reporting was around 'some of the victims being women' and that is was primarily racially motivated. Seems like my reading of it was correct.

I thought exactly the same.

This is so awful, this poor women and their families.

I did also wonder if I was being too assumptive that they were working there, was I subscribing to a horrid stereotype. But when you see how far he drove and the look of the places, the time and think about how these women experience a mix of misogyny and racism, probably poverty or even trafficked and so end up there, you know he's targeted those women specifically.

I cannot get over the sympathy expressed by the cops. He was fed up and having a bad day. Was he? WAS HE? Now think of the friends and family of those women. The other women who work in places like that. The fear those women must have felt.

Honestly I'm apoplectic with rage.

There are so many things he could have done. I can think of many ways to shut down brothels. None of them involve shooting women. Trafficking makes the women the most replaceable part of the whole disgusting industry. Again, someone needs to ask the police officer if he, or any of his men, have frequented those places.

I shared this article on a different thread

www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/there-were-3-800-anti-asian-racist-incidents-mostly-against-n1261257

There were 3,800 anti-Asian racist incidents, mostly against women, in past year
“There is an intersectional dynamic going on that others may perceive both Asians and women and Asian women as easier targets,” one professor said.

This time last year a cleaner at work who is Philippino was badly physically attacked on the way home. Racially motivated, linked to Cv.

I suspect she was set upon also as she was female.

It's just the the arseholes who harass women wearing veils in the street. Even if you're stupid enough to think 3.4 billion muslims are a threat to you, the people who are pretty much never going to be are the women. But yeah, harass them because it's easier.

Weirdly, I can't seem to quote posts that contain quotes. I think this is from post #48:

Yes, the MMIW issue seems to be enormous, in the US and Canada. In the US there seem to be a lot of problems with the criminal men falling between jurisdictions, so justice is lacking to put it mildly.

Yes. The Major Crimes Act means that tribes don't have jurisdiction over certain serious crimes, including murder, that happen on their lands and to their people, and the FBI are too racist and misogynist to prioritise investigating murders and missing person cases when the victim is an indigenous woman.

One might argue that weregeld is an inadequate sentence for murder, but surely an investigation leading to a conviction and weregeld is better than no investigation at all? The tribes can't even investigate to protect their own women, how is this not racism codified into law?

Interesting twist in that article downplaying racial aspect and totally ignoring hatred of women by changing emphasis to his hatred of his own sex addiction.

In order to consider Asian women a temptation, one must first exoticise and dehumanise them for being Asian and female. It's misogynoir, plain and simple.

As a Christian man, if he actually hated his own sex addiction and attempts at therapy had failed, surely he'd cut his penis off instead of killing others? Matthew 18:8 and 18:29 and Mark 9:43 would indicate so. This is not the action of a Christian man struggling with an addiction, it is the action of a racist misogynist.

@toffeebutterpopcorn

Dear god. Just saw the police chief bleating that it was a bad day... for the murderer. Poor lamb and a sex addiction and saw these places as temptation... for the love of god.

This is disgusting.

An example of how men's violence is explained away.

It their victims had been men we wouldn't have heard this kind of justification.

I fear this is a heartbreaking example of where misogyny and racism are intertwined and the poor women who fell victim to this man will likely be denied proper justice because of it too.

I don't comment much, but I've read a few posts from black OPs over the last few days about the intersection of misogyny and racism that have really made me think. I feel like examples like these really highlight the points they have been making, particularly when you view the reporting of this incident in comparison to one with a different type of female victim. (I know they occurred in different countries but just the language used is stark, the lack of focus on the victims etc)

Ive probably explained myself poorly, but I hope you get my drift.

bd67thSaysReinstateLangCleg

Weirdly, I can't seem to quote posts that contain quotes. I think this is from post #48:

Yeah, MN only supports quote trees of one quote. It's not you, it's MN.

Years ago on the old GC reddit there was a woman from that area who posted some stuff vis a vis gangs staking out prostitution territories in a very violent manner with some links to newspaper articles about it. She either got booted at some point or pulled her stuff and left because I can't find her posts anymore, but Atlanta sounded like a grim place to be a prostitute.

Are any women over there out on the streets protesting about the killing of these women? Terrorism against women ... racist and misogynistic certainly. Great employment opportunities eh?

This is a great example of women who 'aren't like us' so don't get protests. I really hope they do get protests.

I keep wondering if anyone will check if they were trafficked. I hope so but I doubt it.

Even if they weren't, legally speaking, trafficked, I doubt any of them were there because they decided it would be more fun than their back-up option of a lucrative career in accountacy with regular hours.

Those poor women.

The excuse boils down to "I killed them to stop me raping them". That's not an excuse!

The excuse boils down to "I killed them to stop me raping them".

It does, doesn't it? And they both involve believing women are things. Not humans.

@WisnaeMe

Have you seen how many Canadian indigenous women are murdered a day?

and it doesn't even get investigated, it's a national disgrace.

This is so true. Look at how long Robert pickton got away with it before it was investigated.

Sorry NRTFT.

Saw on the news 2 day spas and a massage parlour.

I'm not American so I don't know. A massage parlour in the UK is a brothel.

Was this man targeting prostitutes of a certain ethnicity? Or maybe prostitutes and the ethnicity is over represented in that area?

Or a racist incel type?

Anyone know the answer on USA lingo re brothels?

Have looked at BBC and answered my own question.

'Officials cannot yet confirm if the attack, in which six Asian women were killed, was racially motivated. Four victims were named on Wednesday.

The suspect faces multiple counts of murder as well as aggravated assault.

Cherokee County Sheriff Frank Reynolds said the suspect may have been a patron and claimed to have a "sex addiction".'

Well then. He killed women. Racism may well have been a motive but hatred of women is surely worth a mention...

hatred of women is surely worth a mention...

And yet no one has. It's very strange.