Page 19 | "Hundreds defy ban to attend Clapham vigil"

Sparechange · 14/03/2021 22:31

Well don’t leave us hanging...

Although having seen all your other posts on the topic, my spidey senses are saying there is going to be some confirmation bias at play here...

Hibari · 15/03/2021 05:02

Circling the wagons.

Daily Mail readers will lap it up though.

GCAcademic · 15/03/2021 06:12

@NeedanIdea

Of course it was a pr stunt. Kate usually wears a mask to events so why not this one? She couldn't 'gladhand' as that would not be social distancing. She had a camera crew with her and security in the crowd.

If it was Meghan she would have been slated for doing exactly that.

She did not have a camera crew with her, as has already been pointed out to you. There are plenty of other threads on here for you to play out your pathetic Kate vs Meghan agenda on, though god know why MN allows them. This is the feminist board, not the “perpetrate a vendetta against a woman’” board.

Sansaplans · 15/03/2021 07:18

@CyberdyneSystems

I saw a very interesting post on Facebook earlier from One Police UK. The page is mainly serving or retired Police (I'm neither)

It's a bit of an eye opener

Thank you for highlighting that, just read it. Absolutely spot on.

Porridgeoat · 15/03/2021 07:23

I watched what should have been a reflective vigil on live stream. It was after midnight when the police took the arrested individuals back to the vans. All normal people had gone home and there was just a number of people with an agenda (possibly makes and females from political groups?) who moved with the police and hounded them through name calling. This was when the smashed wing mirror happened. It seemed like a reaction to police disproportionate strategies earlier in the evening. I can see it would have been scary for officers but what did they expect? They were clearly badly managed and inappropriately directed by superiors who should have worked with the vigil organisers.

rippledegg · 15/03/2021 08:20

I was really disappointed to hear some of the police calling in, not willing to listen or engage, it was all about them and their defensive feelings

This idea that the police will suddenly kick off and incense a gathering out of their own volition is ridiculous. The police are bound to act (and rightly so) if they perceive there is a risk of a situation getting out of hand. They can sustain injuries as well, and they know it.

Scottsy100 · 15/03/2021 08:37

Actually I know the person who posted this very well and within the post they tagged the actual source (female police officer) who then in return thanked them for sharing her very own post so shove that up your pipe and smoke it

Igneococcus · 15/03/2021 08:41

Not sure if this has been shared somewhere. Janice Turner's comment in the Times:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/478788d6-84e7-11eb-9186-403d3ffc3950?shareToken=81d667f2e9424409854f3c7c8ed5cbd6

And a short comment in Melanie Reid's Scotland section comment:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/7d0dab14-8516-11eb-9186-403d3ffc3950?shareToken=9e37d749c585980a09f22488e7d0e6e1

vdbfamily · 15/03/2021 08:47

A policeman friend of mine shared this on FB.

From a female police officer

Damned if they don't, damned if they do, an account by a female police constable present....

Tonight’s Virgil for Sarah. A female officers point of view..

It started with mainly only female officers overlooking a civil vigil. When numbers grew and social distancing ceased more officers were called.
When police officers tried to crowd control and remove people from stamping on flowers for Sarah they refused. Then it kicked off
Then I saw people being arrested and my colleagues being assaulted when trying to transport said prisoner.
Then I saw our vehicles being vandalised with spray with the word ACAB and a mirror being smashed.
Then I thought what would Sarah’s family think about this?
Then I saw and heard my colleagues being abused. They were called murderes, rapists, a female colleague was told it should have been her. And we were told to arrest each other. This is not ok.
Sarah’s family and friends have been so gracious under the circumstances. I do not believe they would want this to happen. If it was me I would not want this to happen. Stop think and be civil we are all humans and we all are angry at what happened. We do not need more violence.
I am a woman. I am a police officer. I am very proud of being both. This week has me exhausted. Physically from the job and mentally by all this.
We are not at fault for what happened because if we knew we would have done what we could to stop it.
To finalise this rant, to my colleagues: I am proud of you. You were insulted beyond what we are used to. We stand by our uniform, we’re proud to carry this warrant card so we can uphold the great office of Constable. Thank you for being there today hope you are all ok. ♥️

Xenia · 15/03/2021 08:51

The moral wrong is the covid 19 legislation. We need to abolish it all.

rippledegg · 15/03/2021 08:52

@vdbfamily

Sparechange · 15/03/2021 08:56

@Porridgeoat

I watched what should have been a reflective vigil on live stream. It was after midnight when the police took the arrested individuals back to the vans. All normal people had gone home and there was just a number of people with an agenda (possibly makes and females from political groups?) who moved with the police and hounded them through name calling. This was when the smashed wing mirror happened. It seemed like a reaction to police disproportionate strategies earlier in the evening. I can see it would have been scary for officers but what did they expect? They were clearly badly managed and inappropriately directed by superiors who should have worked with the vigil organisers.

Absolutely 100% untrue

The arrests all took place around 9:30pm
By 10:30pm the bandstand area was pretty deserted and all the police were back in their vans, which were parked up along the avenue and by the snack van

JosieJarker · 15/03/2021 09:16

The wing mirror and spray paint on the van was well before midnight.
I dont know the area but was watching on live stream and on a group chat with my cousins and sisters, 8pm they had arrested a man in a black hoodie, 10 or 15 minutes later they got him to the van and you could see the damage to the van then.
Acab sprayed on the side and wing mirror smashed.
Such a shame what should have been a peaceful vigil for Sarah has been ruined by some less than savory elements and the reaction of the police which could and should have been avoided.

Sparechange · 15/03/2021 09:16

@JosieJarker

The wing mirror and spray paint on the van was well before midnight. I dont know the area but was watching on live stream and on a group chat with my cousins and sisters, 8pm they had arrested a man in a black hoodie, 10 or 15 minutes later they got him to the van and you could see the damage to the van then. Acab sprayed on the side and wing mirror smashed. Such a shame what should have been a peaceful vigil for Sarah has been ruined by some less than savory elements and the reaction of the police which could and should have been avoided.

And at a TOTALLY DIFFERENT LOCATION to the vigil

Keeping2ChevronsApart · 15/03/2021 09:20

Pasty Stevenson is being interviewed on sky news now

JosieJarker · 15/03/2021 09:20

Ok. Like I said I dont know the area no need to shout.
Im just disputing the earlier post claiming arrests and damage happened after midnight as you have done yourself.
The spray paint was there 8.15 latest.

Keeping2ChevronsApart · 15/03/2021 09:24

Posted too soon, she came across quite badly and didn't seem too bothered that a friend of Sarah's has said Sarah would not want this at all.

sparechange · 15/03/2021 09:25

Sorry, that wasn't shouting at you... It is sheer frustration that the police have tried to connect 2 groups to justify their violence

That that fake account from a police officer circulating on Facebook just sums it all up... They didn't have any grounds or justification to do what they did, so they put out an official statement full of lies ("objects were thrown at police" - didn't happen) and then write a few anonymous fake accounts to do the rounds on social media...

JosieJarker · 15/03/2021 09:43

I understand, it is very frustrating.
Such a shame for it to end as it did.

SunsetBeetch · 15/03/2021 10:15

@Keeping2ChevronsApart

Posted too soon, she came across quite badly and didn't seem too bothered that a friend of Sarah's has said Sarah would not want this at all.

Ugh. So infuriating that the media are making her a spokesperson. I hope an investigative journalist looks into her, her organisation and Sisters Uncut.

WarriorN · 15/03/2021 11:00

Very good piece on woman's hour today about all this.

Also noting the image of an arrested woman splashed across papers was white.

Keeping2ChevronsApart · 15/03/2021 11:29

@WarriorN

Very good piece on woman's hour today about all this.

Also noting the image of an arrested woman splashed across papers was white.

Yes, that's Patsy the Professional Protester

andyoldlabour · 15/03/2021 11:53

ItsAllGoingToBeFine
NotTerfNorCis

Thanks for confirming what I suspected. I cannot believe they are supporting a serial rapist Nicola Cope who died in prison.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3074229-Inquest-into-death-of-transgender-woman-found-dead-in-her-cell-at-mens-prison

sparechange · 15/03/2021 11:55

@Keeping2ChevronsApart

Professional protester? In what sense?

Keeping2ChevronsApart · 15/03/2021 12:23

Yes we get it you're on their side. Patsy couldn't care less about Sarah Everard, she and her cronies have their own agenda. As the sky reporter pointed out 'you didn't look very distressed' If she didn't have the mask on I swear she'd have been pouting at the camera