Dr Jane Clare Jones on Twitter this morning

[CaveMum]

This thread says everything for me. I’ve shared it across all my own social media this morning.

threadreaderapp.com/thread/1369914137090854914.html

Thank you for sharing.

Great article - so depressing.

I love JCJ.

That article by Paris Lees is something else. This is kind of my problem with the debate around street attention. It’s part of a culture that infantilises women and teaches them to be constantly afraid. I wasn’t brought up that way and I don’t feel frightened when some spunky dude comes and talks to me. There. That's the reason.

She is on fire as usual.

I found the denial in Ash Sankar's tweet about her never asking a friend to text when they got home rather surprising. Obviously, none of her friends have been drunkenly poured into a cab or have admitted to her that they ended up asleep on the train home and ended up in the middle of nowhere. Surely, it is human nature to want to make sure people get home if their defences (and sometimes sensible decision making) is lowered.

Or, she just didn't care.

@WarOnWomen

I love JCJ.

That article by Paris Lees is something else. This is kind of my problem with the debate around street attention. It’s part of a culture that infantilises women and teaches them to be constantly afraid. I wasn’t brought up that way and I don’t feel frightened when some spunky dude comes and talks to me. There. That's the reason.

yes. quite.

Thank you for posting. So sad.

“Street Attention”.

WTAF.

Jane Clare Jones is on fire. As always.

I found the denial in Ash Sankar's tweet about her never asking a friend to text when they got home rather surprising.

I wonder if AS will pause and reflect that this reveals so much more about AS and her relationships with friends than it does about how friends look out for each other.

EmbarrassingAdmissions

I doubt it.

But it also shows her level of empathy towards other women. I wonder what her friends feel about it. .... scrub that. she may surround herself with mirror images so it may not have much impact. Or, all her friends are teetotal ...

Weaponising the horrendous murder of a young woman to attack trans rights is pretty despicable. Not surprising, but despicable all the same.

Weaponising the horrendous murder of a young woman to attack the need for women’s rights is pretty despicable. Not surprising, but despicable all the same.

Brilliant. Thanks for sharing. I needed that!

@Shizuku

Weaponising the horrendous murder of a young woman to attack trans rights is pretty despicable. Not surprising, but despicable all the same.

Speaking out about reality of our lives is not 'attacking trans rights'. However, declaring that women are 'weaponising' it when they are openly angry after a woman is murdered is pretty despicable in my book and downright misogynistic to boot. HTH.

@Shizuku

Weaponising the horrendous murder of a young woman to attack trans rights is pretty despicable. Not surprising, but despicable all the same.

TRAs proclaiming on SM how awful this story is and how women need to be safe whilst simultaneously campaigning for women to have their safe spaces removed is what is despicable.

Speaking out about reality of our lives is not 'attacking trans rights'.
However, declaring that women are 'weaponising' it when they are openly angry after a woman is murdered is pretty despicable in my book and downright misogynistic to boot.
HTH.

This.

bold fail - I was too lazy to do line by line - anyway I'm with Cavemum and Turtles on this.

@Shizuku

Weaponising the horrendous murder of a young woman to attack trans rights is pretty despicable. Not surprising, but despicable all the same.

Mate, adherents to trans ideology accuse us of "weaponising our trauma" when we want to report rape to the police! Despite the fact most of us don't report rape to the police because we don't trust the police or the criminal justice system not to victim blame and re traumatise us.

So I think your little phrase is a misogynist dog whistle, to borrow the kind of slogan-based argument you'd be more likely to understand.

There are no special kinds of male, no identity, no role in society, that makes any male exempt from our concerns about male violence. Trans rights are human rights. But they are not the right for males to be considered exempt from safeguarding.

Oh, are we 'weaponising' our fear and anger, again? Are we? Naughty women! Despicable, even? Really?

Rules of misogyny.

1. Women are responsible for what men do.
2. Women saying no to men is a hate crime.
3. Women speaking for themselves are exclusionary and selfish.
4. Women’s opinions are violence against men, thus male violence against women is justified.
5. Women and Feminism must be useful to men or they are worthless.
6. Women who go around being female AT men by menstruating and breastfeeding babies deserve punishment.
7. Women should always be grateful to men for everything.
8. Men are whatever men say they are and women are whatever men say they are.
9. Men always know the “real reasons” for everything women do and say.

10. The worst thing about male violence is that it makes men look bad. 11. Whatever women suffer from, it is worse when it happens to men. 12. Women’s ability to recognize male behavior patterns is misandry. 13. Angry women are crazy. Angry men have trouble expressing themselves. 14. Women have all the rights they need: The right to remain silent. 15. Men are the default human. Women are strange subhuman others.

@ArabellaScott

Oh, are we 'weaponising' our fear and anger, again? Are we? Naughty women! Despicable, even? Really?

Rules of misogyny.

1. Women are responsible for what men do.
2. Women saying no to men is a hate crime.
3. Women speaking for themselves are exclusionary and selfish.
4. Women’s opinions are violence against men, thus male violence against women is justified.
5. Women and Feminism must be useful to men or they are worthless.
6. Women who go around being female AT men by menstruating and breastfeeding babies deserve punishment.
7. Women should always be grateful to men for everything.
8. Men are whatever men say they are and women are whatever men say they are.
9. Men always know the “real reasons” for everything women do and say.

10. The worst thing about male violence is that it makes men look bad. 11. Whatever women suffer from, it is worse when it happens to men. 12. Women’s ability to recognize male behavior patterns is misandry. 13. Angry women are crazy. Angry men have trouble expressing themselves. 14. Women have all the rights they need: The right to remain silent. 15. Men are the default human. Women are strange subhuman others.

1st rule of transmisogyny, pertinent to this post:

1. Trans women are responsible for what cis men do.

”Trans women are responsible for what cis men do.”

You think it’s only “cis” men who do this stuff? Seriously? Have you been hiding under a rock?

Even in my small town, a transwoman was convicted of raping a woman only a couple of months ago. The fact that person identified as a woman didn’t protect the victim in the slightest. Why on earth would it?

@flowery

”Trans women are responsible for what cis men do.”

You think it’s only “cis” men who do this stuff? Seriously? Have you been hiding under a rock?

Even in my small town, a transwoman was convicted of raping a woman only a couple of months ago. The fact that person identified as a woman didn’t protect the victim in the slightest. Why on earth would it?

You think it's only trans women who do this stuff? Seriously? Have you been hiding under a rock?

www.pinknews.co.uk/2017/10/14/lesbian-who-murdered-girlfriend-after-starving-and-beating-her-for-years-given-life-sentence/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=PNFB&utm_content=JJ

”You think it's only trans women who do this stuff?”

Why would I think that? Male violence is male violence. Done by any male, regardless of how they identify. No woman can rape someone, but any male can. How they present and what they call themselves, or how they feel make no difference whatsoever.

Transmisogyny.

TransmisoGYNY.

Really doesn't work, that one. Especially as it's a term often used by people who are exhibiting extremely GYNAEphobic behaviour.

No one has said only transwomen are offenders. It cannot be argued however that the overwhelming majority of perpetrators of violence, against men or women, are men - ergo male violence is the problem. It is not women's job to protect transwomen from male violence, we're kind of busy trying to protect ourselves right now. In case you hadn't noticed a woman is murdered in the UK by a man every 3 days.

Violence against transpeople is of course unacceptable but it is NOT the job of women to fix it by allowing any man who proclaims himself to be a woman into our safe spaces. Tackle the men, teach them to be accepting of their non-conforming brothers. Don't use women as a human shield.