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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Guardian seems to notice mothers are a bit tired

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ArabellaScott · 28/02/2021 18:48

Looks like a good article (no time to read it, IRONICALLY) which refers to a recent MN survey.

www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2021/feb/28/mums-women-coronavirus-covid-home-schooling-inequality?fbclid=IwAR0ww0pLwWSAINIzzCbCEI68TwHBNWGh6e7eyVYJDUW1w3u3VzkrI-VY2pQ

'We need to reclaim a materialist feminism that isn’t afraid to talk about parenting, pay and poverty, a feminism that seeks change, not accommodation to the status quo. We have to learn from this crisis. It has reminded us that, under a flimsy carapace, women are still poorer and still less powerful than men. It has exposed to us that women are still doing most of the caring in a society that doesn’t value care. It’s reminded us that we need urgency and solidarity if we are to make change. And it’s reminded us that change is way overdue.'

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WarriorN · 01/03/2021 14:41

If a mother just left, and one counted up the cost of replacing a 24 hour a day on call nanny/cook/cleaner/PA, etc. It would be expensive. Very expensive. Women are kept hostage by love and guilt.

Yes I think that's it. (He stopped all that!) but as I teach he views the holidays as my "free" time, and yet I need to point out that if I wasn't teaching, we'd have to fork out for child care. (We do have to a bit as I often need to spend some days in the hols working.)

ArabellaScott · 01/03/2021 14:52

www.salary.com/articles/mother-salary/

paywalled, sadly

www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/11164040/How-much-is-a-housewife-worth.html

This article has a calculator according to area/region

www.motherdistracted.co.uk/2019/03/how-much-is-a-stay-at-home-mum-worth.html

And ... I have neglected my homeschooling and work jobs to write this post. Gah.

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ArabellaScott · 01/03/2021 14:54

www.funkypigeon.com/blog/parent-salary-calculator/

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merrymouse · 01/03/2021 16:09

I love this paragraph:

Whatever the setup is, the husband gets away with less. You hear: ‘My husband is self-employed, so he won’t get paid if he doesn’t work, so I’ll do the home school.’ But also: ‘I’m self-employed, so I can be flexible, I’ll do the home school.’ ‘My business folded due to the lockdown so I can home school.’ But also: ‘My husband lost his job, so he needs to look for work.’ What’s going on?”

TheABC · 01/03/2021 16:16

The problem is until we stop doing it, the cost of caring/juggling/housework will continue to be hidden.

Perhaps we need to go on strike, as Iceland did?
www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34602822

ArabellaScott · 01/03/2021 17:29

Hmm. Maybe for Mother's Day we should all strike.

And for International Women's Day.

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BraveBananaBadge · 03/03/2021 08:33

"Girls and young women aged between 14 and 24 are taking responsibility for the majority of household chores during the pandemic, leaving them less time to focus on their education, according to a new survey."

Once again, the Guardian miraculously seems to be able to identify who's who when it comes to doing the donkey work...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/03/girls-doing-more-housework-in-covid-lockdown-than-boys?CMP=ShareiOSAppp_Other

merrymouse · 03/03/2021 09:27

"Young women are becoming trapped in traditional roles at home and neglecting education, finds charity
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Surely they mean identifying with traditional roles at home?

Annasgirl · 03/03/2021 10:47

@BraveBananaBadge

"Girls and young women aged between 14 and 24 are taking responsibility for the majority of household chores during the pandemic, leaving them less time to focus on their education, according to a new survey."

Once again, the Guardian miraculously seems to be able to identify who's who when it comes to doing the donkey work...

[[https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/03/girls-doing-more-housework-in-covid-lockdown-than-boys?CMP=Share]]iOSAppp_Other

Yes Brave, I wonder how many teenage boys are identifying as teenage girls, so that they can do housework instead of study Hmm
ArabellaScott · 03/03/2021 18:59

@merrymouse

*"Young women are becoming trapped in traditional roles at home and neglecting education, finds charity "*

Surely they mean identifying with traditional roles at home?

Indeed. Maybe this is 'gender expression' rather than 'gender identity', though.
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Thelnebriati · 03/03/2021 19:22

"Young women are becoming trapped in traditional roles at home and neglecting education, finds charity"

Am I the only one that find the phrasing off, as if girls are deliberately neglecting their education instead of being robbed of the opportunity?

ArabellaScott · 03/03/2021 19:43

No, you're quite right, Inebriati.

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jules0607 · 03/03/2021 19:45

Our support groups are being infiltrated & woke women are allowing this to happen

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