Gender doublethink

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There's this little logic hop that happens in genderist arguments. You define something one way, look at some data or make an argument, then change your definition and pretend the same conclusion applies.

Classical example is women (biological) need separate sports categories due to different physiology. Change definition of women to gender identity and descriptor of women to "afab". Conclusion no longer holds - it's now "afab" people who need separate sports categories in their terminology, but genderists conveniently don't notice that.

Use a wide definition of health conditions mainly diagnosed at puberty and casting no shadow of doubt on a person's sex, and declare 2% of the population "are intersex". Change definition and say intersex means babies for whom their sex is ambiguous at birth - boom, 2% of babies have an ambiguous sex at birth. Allsorts told my child that in a school assembly recently

Refuse to record sex, record self-ID gender instead - no reason to segregate prisons by sex, look, sexual offences by women are on the rise.

You can't even tell if trans women are in your changing rooms, they pass so well. So you mustn't query any obviously male person as you can't know how they identify.

Changing rooms all have enclosed cubicles so you're being bigoted not to want penises in the communal women only showers.

Any more?

a. Woman is so meaningless as to mean opposite things to people, it's not a group with any common meaning.

b. All women must share spaces, sports and data categories because it is such a well understood meaningful common group.

Change the meaning of violence so that immeasurable micro expressions outnumber the actual murders, rapes, and abuses women are subjected to.

Then say that you are the most vulnerable population of them all. Even though the stats show you are less likely to be murdered in the UK. Take up so much space declaring that you are the most at risk group that there isn't space to notice that 3 women a week are being killed by men.

TWAW and can identify as lesbian. It's transphobic for a female lesbian to not consider TW's penises as female organs. It is however ok for a TW with a penis to only want to date a female lesbian with a vagina.

You can't tell who is trans and who isn't, and yet it is vital for today's kids not to go through their sexed puberty, and also not all trans people undergo surgery and you're 'valid' no matter what.

Transwomen are loath to share facilities with males therefore women must accept them.

Women are loath to share facilities with transwomen therefore they are bigots.

Someone's gender identity is whatever they tell you it is. Unless they're female and tell you they don't have a gender identity and don't have blue hair - then their gender identity is ciswoman.

• oh and further exceptions, if they desist it retrospectively wasn't what they said it was, and if they criminally exploit access to women's spaces they probably weren't really trans either.

We are told TW need to use women's toilets to feel safer from male violence. When we say we are concerned about sexual assault with self-identifying males entering our toilets, we are told that if men want to do us harm they'll come in anyway. So how do TRAs make this cognitive leap that they're safe from male violence in female toilets?

All kids should be free to explore their gender identity.

Until they say out loud that they're exploring and which point it's "affirm them and give out puberty blockers"

1. Gender is always unknowable by others.
2. If you misgender someone else, it is always your fault and they are due an apology from you.
3. Any combination of pronouns such as she/they is legitimate whether they form any kind of coherent whole or not.
4. Any error in pronoun use is always your fault and they are due an apology from you.
5. It is not yet decided whether a person's language disability/inability to use pronouns trumps gender creativity in the stakes of who is most marginalised. But it's probably your fault.

Women are bigoted to be fearful of allowing males to use women's spaces under because course there won't be any problems of male violence stop being hysterical.

Male violence is such a huge problem in men's spaces for transwomen this is why we have to allow them into the women's. Not just transwomen either, we must allow ALL male people into women's spaces under self ID.
Because..... Otherwise some transwomen will get harmed by men.

Women are bigoted to be fearful of allowing males to use women's spaces under because course there won't be any problems of male violence stop being hysterical

Meant to say under self ID

Acceptance without exeption, until a person decides they're not actually transgender just GNC.

See also people who detransition are such a small minority its not even worth researching why some people choose to detransition.

Dysphoria isn't a mental illness

Dysphoria requires urgent NHS treatment

Sex isn't binary. Unless of course you want to define yourself against it.

The simplest one for me, which I can't seem to understand is: are trans women WOMEN, or are they TRANS? It seems to change with the context of whatever request/demand is being made at the time.

Ha, I think I just said what @Whatwouldscullydo only I was much more clumsy about it.

@JWrecks

The simplest one for me, which I can't seem to understand is: are trans women WOMEN, or are they TRANS? It seems to change with the context of whatever request/demand is being made at the time.

Trans women are women. Trans women are oppressed by women.

Trans women 'live as women'.
Trans women are never told to 'just be kind' or expected to put the needs of others before their own or take on caring or domestic duties.

Transgender people are the most oppressed group ever.
Stonewall Champions.

Words are so important but grammar is not. Using correct grammar is bigoted.

Saw this on a womenarehuman page:

Transgender isn't a mental illness but:

"We’ll spiral into depression and commit suicide if you ‘misgender’ (mention our biological sex) or ‘deadname’ (use our former name)."

"I hate my body so much that I want to chop off my genitals / commit suicide."

"Your Honor, I committed this violent / sex crime because I was experiencing gender dysphoria, and it interfered with my ability to think clearly. This mitigating mental state entitles me to a less severe prison sentence."

Words are so important but grammar is not. Using correct grammar is bigoted

Healthcare is shit but records can be falsified further ensuring the care recived or potentially not received is not only shit but dangerous

TRAs: TW have been using female toilets for ages, what are you so upset about?

If this is true (highly unlikely), why the push to legislate it? Why is it seen as some kind of achievement then with selfie poses?

transwomen are women (oxymoron)

transrights are human rights (tautology)