Worrying reports from Uighur women - content warning, extremely upsetting

[ArabellaScott]

Do please avoid this if you are likely to be upset - I am finding the story very hard to read.

Disturbing and horrible allegations coming from women detained in China. 'rape has become a culture'

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-55794071

Is there anything at all that can be done about this?

This is horrific.

Why do we as a world turn a blind eye? Is it politics? Economics? Morals?

It might sound a bit daft, but could Mumsnet do something here? A campaign to support Uighur women? I feel so powerless - China is too big and too impervious to international pressure.

As noted above, too, some of the Uighur people involved are UK citizens.

Not read this as yet. Might steel myself for it in a bit but the comments here tell me how bad it is.

Will check out the links above of things to do that might help in some tiny way.

@ginghamstarfish Why aren't the hugely wealthy Arab countries doing anything to help their fellow Muslims?

I read several months ago, that Uighar is considered the lowest, to the point of not being muslim at all, muslims.

[quote CaraDuneRedux]Just to repeat the link from upthread, this is a starting list of companies to boycott:
www.saveuighur.org/83-companies-linked-to-uighur-forced-labor/[/quote]
Thank you for this list.

Quite stark how so many businesses and politicians are quiet over this. No flags, speeches and social media images proclaiming that Uighur lives matter.
Almost like corporations, political and celebrity elites will engage in moral outrage and posturing as long as it won't actually cost them anything.

@ginghamstarfish

Why aren't the hugely wealthy Arab countries doing anything to help their fellow Muslims? Not that they seem to do much for anyone else.

Wealthy Arab countries do not give a flying fuck about Muslims, especially those from countries they consider lower to them.

ginghamstarfish

“ In February 2019, Saudi Arabia's Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman defended camps, saying "China has the right to carry out anti-terrorism and de-extremisation work for its national security.]”

Do you mean this man??
The Arab leaderships don’t represent the people and have been imposed on them. And so have their policies.

I’m sure the Arab springs made that very clear.

I braced myself before reading and still haven't been able to make it to the end. It's so hard to comprehend the sheer scale and depths of the atrocities being described.

It's horrific. I read this this morning. I emailed my MP but it feels pretty pointless.

Thank you for this OP. It is beyond horrendous.

I feel helpless but may try contacting Maajid Nawaaz via Twitter to ask him if he is progressing any campaigns/petitions on this, and is there any way I can support anything he is doing? Yes, he is just a journalist, but he has clearly staked his position and he has a voice on a National Radio station and can use his platform to be a 'bit' heard. Perhaps if he gets enough support behind him, he will be galvanised into applying pressure on parliament to act. LBC journo's are quite influential as journos go.... It's somewhere to start.

None of the current Arab countries are actually led by Muslims,.according to the Qur'an hence the don't care @ginghamstarfish Their game play currently is the fully Satanist agenda going full speed ahead. This is hard for even Muslims to understand but it's in detail in the Hadith. They will receive their punishment eventually, also described in the hadith. We can't expect anything of such people. They make their own laws.

The solution is change but no one wants to go ahead with it so despite the Holocaust we still find ourselves here. But we can try as individuals. Never lose hope in the few.

Thank you for posting OP.

This is the sort of thing where the international community must must do something. But they rarely do

That was really hard to read. I have no idea what to do with it.

@ArabellaScott

Christ almighty, BelleHathor.

Twitter of Emma Reilly, the lawyer above, brave woman:

twitter.com/intent/follow?original_referer=https%3A%2F%2Fthreadreaderapp.com%2F&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&screen_name=EmmaReillyTweet&tw_p=followbutton

They're trying to keep it covered up. The UN is supporting and enabling genocide.

It's one of the most haunting things happening right now in front of our faces, I'm not even religious but after seeing some of the things happening I pray for some countries to please do something. To the PP it sounds like a good idea to DM Maajid. Some links on the situation 13 tonnes of hair taken from China’s Uyghur Muslims has ‘Nazi resonance jewishnews.timesofisrael.com/13-tonnes-of-hair-taken-from-chinas-uyghur-muslims-has-nazi-resonance/ Organ Harvesting bylinetimes.com/2019/11/26/more-uyghur-horror-harvesting-hundreds-of-thousands-of-organs-from-mass-murder/ AI Targeting bylinetimes.com/2019/11/18/beyond-orwells-worst-nightmares-how-china-uses-artificial-intelligence-to-commit-genocide/ Forced Sterilisation apnews.com/article/269b3de1af34e17c1941a514f78d764c UK mps debate uighur e-petition m.youtube.com/watch?v=C6Jw-W-B0Q0

Maajid Nawaz YouTube Videos
m.youtube.com/watch?v=2OMYVASq7U8
m.youtube.com/watch?v=OVTdQlyxvqA
m.youtube.com/watch?v=Uyzyyxdx-hE
m.youtube.com/watch?v=6Yev7h6aDyc

m.youtube.com/watch?v=ElngrpGBJK0
m.youtube.com/watch?v=jWQPCYwek44
Guardian and CH4 YOUTUBE
m.youtube.com/watch?v=qc4hwH0TmSo
m.youtube.com/watch?v=GRBcP5BrffI
m.youtube.com/watch?v=Mx0JFgwATho
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I feel heartbroken that these women feel ashamed (as stated in the article), when the reality is they are astoundingly brave for speaking out. In their own names. Truly heroic.

I feel as helpless as the rest of you here, but I take heart that the BBC is writing about this in such detail, with the voices of survivors being centred and endorsed. Stoking mainstream outrage may be the only way to get cowardly governments to take action.

I've followed Emma Reilly on Twitter and signed up for emails from the Save Uighur group.

@Rupertbeartrousers

75 years after the liberation of Auschwitz and this is where the world is

Nailed it.

The Nazi regime were seen by some and treated by many as a respectable - if difficult - regime at the beginning but we all came to learn precisely what monstrosities they were capable of, and had committed on a massive scale.

It was widely known that Jewish people (and others) were robbed of their property, imprisoned, murdered and deported to "work camps" and there were widespread rumours of death camps. We now know that sexual abuse was also employed on an industrial scale - women used as "rewards" for non Jewish prisoners who behaved themselves. Repeatedly raped.

Germany were too big to challenge, so we delayed until they got even bigger and stronger.

It's exactly the same now and yet again we stand by and do nothing.

Pics it's absolutely chilling to see it laid out like that. I suppose the only recourse beyond boycott atrempts is via the UN, who seem to be complicit. I do fear for global stability when I consider things like this. Does the world stand by while atrocities are committed or is there a way to challenge them without actual confrontation? China are not exactly open to discussion.

There will be confrontation. It's inevitable and only a matter of time.

The good news is they've foolishly taken on India nothing like a war with 2 fronts which means India is more likely to be on the allied side when the time comes.

This is horrific, Pics. The mind shies away from even thinking about it.

I have been seeing occasional articles for months, if not longer.
But they come and go.
Maybe this time something will happen? Not convinced.

Whether anyone likes it or not, the impetus normally comes form the US. Whether Biden will do something, I have no idea.
Has he mentioned anything yet?

The camps have been in existence since 2017.
The world has hardly been in a rush to aid them.

I feel so powerless. Those poor women.

The US condemned it this morning. www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-55930344