@derxa
Back to the farming thing. Farmers grow the stuff you eat and drink. That includes oats, rapeseed oil etc. Therefore I've probably got more in common with arable farmers than non farmers.
The thread is about nasty and untruthful marketing.
Yes and this is the bit I find quite laughable. Most of the dairy farmers I know also grow an arable crop - barley, wheat, oats, sugar beet, rape etc.
Cropped with gas guzzling HUGE machinery that is replaced frequently. crops are sprayed often, chemically and organically fertilised and lots of pest control.
Different farming types don't sit in a vacuum where they are either bad/ good/ vegan/ not vegan. Different farming systems are co-dependent, symbiotic.
Muck for straw as they say
we are beef (suckler) and sheep farmers. Our slurry from the beef cows goes back on the fields to grow silage for the cows through winter and grass for the sheep and cows through summer. We buy straw from the arable and dairy farmers which is a by-product from crops like oats , barely wheat and even things like peas.
We pay 'winter out' for our hogs (year old ewe lambs) to graze dairy farmers fields through winter on the lowlands where there's more grass and it's warmer than in the mountains. In return in the late summer/ early autumn the arable and dairy farmers buy our 'gimmers' (that years breeding female lambs) and 'stores' (male and female lambs) to fatten up on their good grass, fallow and crop stubble.
Those of us in beef buy grains and straw and male dairy calves.
I'm sure it wouldn't take too much digging to find that Oatly oat farmers are just as involved in the beef, sheep and dairy industries as the 'bad livestock 'F'harmers' that manage the cow pat end of the farming co-dependent relationship.