A war of words is beginning to wipe women out of existence, Janice Turner in the Times

[Igneococcus]

Haven't actually read it yet:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ca340930-5cce-11eb-86f4-4fa0aa4e7fd3?shareToken=12c48ac962c2fb8fc9593cc9f5bbf5f3

Perhaps trans people should be treated the same way a tantruming toddler is - ignored when they are throwing a fit for no good reason. We ignore the demands to have our language erased, we continue using our language without so much as acknowledging the tantrum. They’ll soon get bored, the same way all tantruming toddlers do when their hysterics aren’t rewarded with attention.

Sometimes unreasonable people just need to be told no.

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@HecatesCats

The problem with Lamonts statement is the captured will simply state "off course women are free to choose a woman examiner. Transwomen are women!"

Oh no, you see, "for the word gender substitute sex" - that's JL's amendment. They can't I'm afraid, and they can't have the word woman either.

Yes, Lamont called their bluff. They could have carried on with the inane TWAW argument at that point but no one dared.

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Thanks for sharing, a brilliant article.

@ArabellaScott

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I loved that comment too! Made I larf

Gah it didn't copy the comment 🙄

@ArabellaScott

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Perfect

It is a great piece. The bit that stood out was the 38% of women in prison for sex offences are transwomen.

I'm sure this has been done elsewhere in this board much more properly, but I looked up the prisoner numbers, there are 10,000 male prisoners convicted of sex crimes in 2019, and 186 women. In total.

This BBC reality check piece said in 2018 there were 60 trans people in prison for sex offences in England and Wales (out of a total trans prison population of 125). With all the caveats around these numbers - who is being counted as women, whether biological sex or gender is being recorded of a prisoner, the BBC piece says these numbers don't include anyone with a GRC for example.

Even if these figures are ball parks. 54m adults in the UK. 27m males approx, so that is .03% in prison for sex offences, or 1 in 3300. For women, that is .0006% or 1 in 160,000.

How many trans identified people in the UK excluding those with GRCs? Who knows, but I've heard people say up to 500k. Say even sex split. So 60 transwomen in prison for sex crimes is .02% of the biologically male trans population. Or 1 in 5000.

But as Jane Fae says in the article, I wouldn't want to read too much into the figures as I might misinterpret them, and the real risk isn't the threat of sexual violence against women prisoners but creating unwarranted hostility against trans people. Obviously.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-42221629

"As Jane Fae says..."

Jane Fae? Silly women with their "eggshell skulls" getting murdered in a boring pedestrian way, Jane Fae?