Biden has completely obliterated woman’s sex based protections as he said he would do.

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www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/01/20/executive-order-preventing-and-combating-discrimination-on-basis-of-gender-identity-or-sexual-orientation/

“Children should be able to learn without worrying about whether they will be denied access to the restroom, the locker room, or school sports."

Biden just passed all the worst parts of the Equality Act by executive order (so without going through any legislation at all). It is limited in effect to agencies (I think) but those agencies include the Bureau of Prisons, Dept of Housing and Urban Development, Dept of Education, Dept of Labor etc

This will of course be unchallenged, even welcomed by the media. It will likely have a knock on effect around the world.

And I am so angry. So so angry. He was never the ‘least worst option’ he is the absolute worst option.

As Abigail Shriner says
twitter.com/abigailshrier/status/1352121732723666946?s=21

I recommend Quilette. There's quite a discussion on there about it.

Nice gerbil - sad but true. Life surrounded by men and always felt like an object, there to fulfil some expectations of theirs.

Looking forward to the international athletics in the next decade..think we should attend en masse and burst out laughing at the award ceremonies when the women's medals go to men but feel bad saying it. So unkind- not like a woman. US sports scholarship system will leave a trail of disappointment now. Like East Germany again but drugs not needed to promote male characteristics.

It dismayed the pop up people and LGBT Labour because it was the removal of the established legal rights of women that interested them.

Nowhere, ever, have I seen any recognition from any of them of the astonishingly bold, tangible and very expensive commitment that we gave to improve the lives of trans people by ensuring adequate and much improved access to health care services.

YY.

That's a great piece by Janice Turner. I know this sounds churlish but I wish she'd written it before the election. Because from where I'm sitting, a brilliant article once the order has been signed is of limited use.

Biden made his intentions perfectly clear beforehand but so many left leaning feminists seemed to be keeping their their heads down. I may have missed some but the only one I can remember speaking up was Allison Bailey. (Yes admittedly this is in the UK.) Bailey did not endorse Trump - from what I remember, she said she supported Biden but that this was a terrible idea that would harm women.

I know I'm banging on about this but I think feminists on the left have been too fearful of rocking the boat and we've let ourselves be out-manoeuvred. I think we need to learn from this and we need to learn fast.

@doingtheirbiden

I used to work in an FE college in Luton and the very vast majority of students were from South Asian backgrounds.

Every toilet and break there would be female students in the girls toilets, adjusting hijab or briefly removing hijab which they absolutely could not do in the main areas under the male gaze.

There is no way the families of these students would allow them to use mixed sex toilet provision. If our government pulled what Biden just had those girls - who probably represented 40 per cent of the entire college population - would no longer be in education.

This is progress?

Excellent point.

It's so regressive.

That is just a great piece by Janice. Really great

Pulls everything together

It’s frustrating on this board that so many posters expect the trans issue to outweigh the many other serious problems facing women in America.

Rather ironic then that despite the many urgent issues facing America, Biden should chose to prioritise erasing women as a legally recognised entity within days of taking office but you think posters on this board think trans issues outweigh all others.

Little bit of a mic drop moment from FOJN there.

@PurpleHoodie

Little bit of a mic drop moment from FOJN there.

It is

I’m sat here thinking ‘oh yeah 😳’

@Sometimesonly

Society simply does not care about sex crimes against women and girls, generally. We're smaller and weaker, men have needs, what can you do? It's the way it is

I agree. I think part of the problem is that for a lot of men, rape is not really a serious crime. They don't see it as having a profound effect on someone's life. After all, sex is good, a bit of sex that someone didn't want is probably not so bad.

This is very true. Unless it is a man being raped and then they do seem to get it. But men don’t think they will ever be raped whereas all women worry that they could be.

@FOJN

It’s frustrating on this board that so many posters expect the trans issue to outweigh the many other serious problems facing women in America.

Rather ironic then that despite the many urgent issues facing America, Biden should chose to prioritise erasing women as a legally recognised entity within days of taking office but you think posters on this board think trans issues outweigh all others.

Fantastic rebuttal!

Why do you think that men (as in born men) would have rights to abortion?
Its this sort of question that makes me question if trans activists either don't really understand or don't really believe the agenda they are pushing.

When you fight to remove all legal sex markers and make people indistinguishable, how could you tell who is 'really' a man and who is a trans man? On what legal grounds could you refuse an appointment to one and not the other?

Biden has decided to give Roe v Wade a statutory basis to eliminate the danger that a Trump-appointed Supreme Court will overturn it. That seems a pretty significant step for women's rights.

Re. Abortion I think men would love to have equal abortion rights to women. It would be very handy indeed for some men either to stop one from happening or delay it until it couldn’t happen or on the flip side to force one to happen.

So. Are you saying Clinton and Obama could have done this?? But didn't

Wow. Why not?

Rather ironic then that despite the many urgent issues facing America, Biden should chose to prioritise erasing women as a legally recognised entity within days of taking office but you think posters on this board think trans issues outweigh all others.

Please let it never be said that women are focusing on the wrong issues again. Let's not hear that there is no trans lobby. Let's not hear that women are conspiracy theorists because they see how pernicious lobbying is have real impact on their lives. The President of the United States just made erasing sex in law a priority. ALL sex based protections stem from there. This is urgent.

A really, really good point sasha.

Please let it never be said that women are focusing on the wrong issues again. Let's not hear that there is no trans lobby. Let's not hear that women are conspiracy theorists because they see how pernicious lobbying is have real impact on their lives. The President of the United States just made erasing sex in law a priority. ALL sex based protections stem from there. This is urgent

Well. This!

@HecatesCats

Rather ironic then that despite the many urgent issues facing America, Biden should chose to prioritise erasing women as a legally recognised entity within days of taking office but you think posters on this board think trans issues outweigh all others.

Please let it never be said that women are focusing on the wrong issues again. Let's not hear that there is no trans lobby. Let's not hear that women are conspiracy theorists because they see how pernicious lobbying is have real impact on their lives. The President of the United States just made erasing sex in law a priority. ALL sex based protections stem from there. This is urgent.

We said HecatesCats

Its this sort of question that makes me question if trans activists either don't really understand or don't really believe the agenda they are pushing

Hardly surprising when it's all just mantras and basically involves erasing everything you know to he true from your brain.

If it stood up to a.single question the # wouldn't be #nodebate.

*WELL said

It will be wonderful if abortion rights are safeguarded.

But to take one's eyes off everything else is dangerous.

One wouldn't forfeit a precious lifelong right to earn one's own money in exchange for a generous short term offer of charity and a promise of future benevolence. The offer is one of "trust us, we'll look after you forever if you accept and sign away your ability to fight for yourself in future and surrender to our protection"

And similarly, women should be aware. Abortion rights are a prize. But if the price is that we as a sex are never again recognised as a class, never allowed or able to reference ourselves and our different needs and demands, are punishable by law for daring to try to exclude or refuse men from anything we are entitled to? We're signing away our freedom and future rights.

Men in power are right now offering us a crumb of what we need in exchange for us forfeiting our right to ever demand anything on our own terms again.
A gift now in exchange for the dissolution of female rights in the future.

Human rights are not enough. They will never meet female needs. It will never be enough to have only the rights that pertain to male needs. There will ALWAYS be particular needs of female people and without recognition of those people those needs will never be met.

We will always need female rights. We cannot ever settle for less.

Rather ironic then that despite the many urgent issues facing America, Biden should chose to prioritise erasing women as a legally recognised entity within days of taking office

"Anything else I can do for you, Ms Pritzker?"

Men in power are right now offering us a crumb of what we need in exchange for us forfeiting our right to ever demand anything on our own terms again.
This articulates it so well, thank you.

Apposite quote from Dworkin (there's always an apposite quote from Dworkin).
'Everywhere, women are confronted by the urgency of male demands, all of which are supposed to supersede in importance the demands which women must make toward our own integrity. This story is so old that it should be tired and dead, but it is not.'