Biden has completely obliterated woman’s sex based protections as he said he would do.

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www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/01/20/executive-order-preventing-and-combating-discrimination-on-basis-of-gender-identity-or-sexual-orientation/

“Children should be able to learn without worrying about whether they will be denied access to the restroom, the locker room, or school sports."

Biden just passed all the worst parts of the Equality Act by executive order (so without going through any legislation at all). It is limited in effect to agencies (I think) but those agencies include the Bureau of Prisons, Dept of Housing and Urban Development, Dept of Education, Dept of Labor etc

This will of course be unchallenged, even welcomed by the media. It will likely have a knock on effect around the world.

And I am so angry. So so angry. He was never the ‘least worst option’ he is the absolute worst option.

As Abigail Shriner says
twitter.com/abigailshrier/status/1352121732723666946?s=21

This is like that time Dr Harrop pronounced that t*rfs should have their own bathrooms. Such an own goal.

Or when he said that Posie Parker was "appropriating the definition of "woman" for full on DARVO.

@yourhairiswinterfire

Stop the world, I want to get off! I can't tell what's parody or serious anymore.

''Get your own sport.''

We had our own sports, fucking Einstein, it was called 'women's sports', until the males decided to take it away.

Point them to Linda Blade's excellent thread on the history of women's movement in sports. We're not going to give up just because the Olympic committee decided that 8 men feeling more teary and sluggish after taking wrong-sex hormones was enough reason to abolish women's sports.

A UNICEF report a couple of years ago said access to single sex toilets was a basic human need to get girls into schools in developing countries. Many girls missed school as they were having a period. Seems like we are going to end up worse off than third world countries.

I'm guessing that the Biden campaign was heavily subsidised by the Trans lobby and was subject to certain promises

Yes. Look to Jennifer / Penny Pritzker for a start.

So much for having a female VP - surely most voters were hoping that this would have some influence on the usual 'old white man' president? She's an even bigger disappointment than Biden really in not using her influence in this matter.

@ginghamstarfish

So much for having a female VP - surely most voters were hoping that this would have some influence on the usual 'old white man' president? She's an even bigger disappointment than Biden really in not using her influence in this matter.

Its bit like with Obama, so much hope it would turn rhings around with institutionalised racism but it did diddly squat

@Quaagars

If the right to have an abortion is extended to men too, it would be the start of a slow (well, not very slow at all) creep towards everything being human unless you're male, in which case you are male as a subset of human and women are.....? not included in the ccategory human or perhaps included only as non-men. I do see that.

Why do you think that men (as in born men) would have rights to abortion?
Im sorry, but you sound confused - when people are saying that men can have abortion rights, they mean trans men - (as in born female) and are trans men.
Born men cannot give birth, why do you seem to think that they want the right to have an abortion too?
Trans men.
They can get pregnant, they have rights to abortion as well.
Which is what is meant.
Women are still women, trans men are still trans men.

@Quaagars. I'm really not confused. I know that women get pg and men can't. I am talking about SEX not gender. I still occupy that tiny bit of ground which says that sex is an important part of the human condition which influences and determines physical processes. The truth is that your body doen't care whether you're male or female, it knows whether it is male or female and that will influence what cancers you could develop (women don't have prostates for instance). There is no way in the world that a female can develop prostate cancer and there is no way in the world that a male can develop ovarian cancer (or get pregnant, or have periods or many other things which are exclusively female problems..) If you don't grow a prostate in the womb then you're not going to get prostate cancer. There's nothing in the world that can change that no matter what one wants to call oneself; one's body simply isn't interested.

@HettieMills

I'm guessing that the Biden campaign was heavily subsidised by the Trans lobby and was subject to certain promises

Yes. Look to Jennifer / Penny Pritzker for a start.

www.forbes.com/sites/michelatindera/2020/12/08/former-trump-donor-jennifer-pritzker-among-billionaires-who-made-last-minute-six-figure-donations-to-joe-biden/?sh=5dcefcf4d58e

Seems they don't care which party they support, as long as said party does their bidding.

"We had our own sports, fucking Einstein, it was called 'women's sports', until the males decided to take it away."

You mean "males" as in trans women? Or men generally? Men in general, I don't think wanted to interfere with women's sports. Of course a percentage did, but I don't see the connection with sex.

With trans-women, they aren't powerful enough by themselves to interfere with women's sport; although of course some trans people may be driving forces in activism.

My point is, is that it's the political left that decided to act here and made the difference, not "men". This is a human rights issue in their minds. Now they may be deluded, but they really believe it. It's not all some secret plan by men to take extra spots on the podium!

Slight sports derail here, but the year 1921 stuck in my mind so I looked it up and yes - it's 100 years since women's football teams in the UK were officially banned by the FA from playing in Association grounds. Largely because women's football had got too popular during WW1 when the men were away, and when they came back they didn't want to share their facilities or their supporters. So women formed the English Ladies' Football Association and played on rugby grounds, but it took 50 years until the ban was lifted in 1971.

Another 50 years on and men have found a new way of making women move over or bow out of sports.

It's an interesting side note that one of the supporting arguments for banning it was put forward by doctors, who said it was too dangerous for women. How ironic that, 100 years later the narrative has switched to it not being remotely dangerous at all for women to play against bigger, heavier, more solidly-muscled male bodies?

Link here. www.historyextra.com/period/first-world-war/1921-when-football-association-banned-women-soccer-dick-kerr-ladies-lily-parr/

Another interesting side note from the linked article is that "without the restrictions imposed in England, the United States emerged as the benchmark for women’s football during the second half of the 20th century. The US team has since won three World Cups and four Olympic gold medals; England have no major honours in the women’s game."

I'm sure America's supremacy in the game is only going to increase from here on in.

You mean "males" as in trans women? Or men generally? Men in general, I don't think wanted to interfere with women's sports. Of course a percentage did, but I don't see the connection with sex.

They've not exactly tried hard to protect it though. By they I largely mean the people who govern sport who are mostly men.

You only have to compare the intense displeasure and scrutiny Oscar Pistorius faced when he wanted to compete in able bodied competition. No stone was left unturned to check whether male athletes would be disadvantaged.

Women's sport however they turn a blind eye and wave in pretty much any male who fancies a go.

I'm willing to bet the disparity between male and female advantage is monumentally more than it ever was between Pistorius and the other male athletes.

Yes, this is wholly based in the standard, normal every day misogyny that women experience in a country run by men for the benefit of men, seeing women as sort of subhuman service units.

I'm not going to pretend otherwise because it hurts men's feelings. When there's some reciprocal care given for women's feelings I may reconsider. Women got into this mess by being kind, being nice, not taking up too much space and caring too much about other people's feelings when there was no reciprocal manners or values coming back to them.

That is kindness, that's doormatting. That needs to stop now.

That isn't kindness, that's doormatting.

Two things easily confused.

Yes, this is wholly based in the standard, normal every day misogyny that women experience in a country run by men for the benefit of men, seeing women as sort of subhuman service units.

I'm not going to pretend otherwise because it hurts men's feelings. When there's some reciprocal care given for women's feelings I may reconsider.

Hear hear

You only have to compare the intense displeasure and scrutiny Oscar Pistorius faced when he wanted to compete in able bodied competition. No stone was left unturned to check whether male athletes would be disadvantaged

Yes that was interesting because the burden of proof is reversed. In Pistorius' case he had to prove that he did not have an advantage over other athletes, but in the case of women's sports there is a presumption that there is no advantage (once the testosterone has been lowered) and it is up to women to prove that an advantage exists.

@MichelleofzeResistance

Yes, this is wholly based in the standard, normal every day misogyny that women experience in a country run by men for the benefit of men, seeing women as sort of subhuman service units.

I'm not going to pretend otherwise because it hurts men's feelings. When there's some reciprocal care given for women's feelings I may reconsider. Women got into this mess by being kind, being nice, not taking up too much space and caring too much about other people's feelings when there was no reciprocal manners or values coming back to them.

That is kindness, that's doormatting. That needs to stop now.

this THIS T H I S

Seems they don't care which party they support, as long as said party does their bidding.

Yep. They certainly saw an opportunity with Biden and seized it.

Since wa have a bunch of Americans on a UK based women's (cervix havers) discussion board I have a question. What will Trump's appointment of conservative judges to the supreme court do for these executive orders when the court cases come rolling in?

They certainly saw an opportunity with Biden and seized it.
I honestly think there's a lesson for us here. The gender lobby will have feared a Trump victory as much as we did - it won't have stopped them playing hardball.
If there's one thing I'm taking from this debacle, it's that the time to get politicians to listen is before an election, not after. I think we were too timid, too easily intimidated, too scared of being labelled Trump supporters. That includes on here and it includes me.

I think it would be good if people can take a lesson from this. Trump is revolting, but we can see what he is. Biden is a whole other danger. Between the two I would have still voted for Trump to stop Biden getting in. Despite the warnings people just didn't want to hear it. We need to be honest and speak out, ignore the abuse for not falling in with the crowd, and keep talking.
The same in the UK. People don't dare say they voted for the Tory party. But if it kept labour out, who undoubtedly would try to impose something similar to Bidens principles, then I would do so in a heartbeat. Not spoil my ballot, not vote for a party that doesn't stand a chance, I would vote Tory. Because, although they're not ideal, we have more chance of protecting women and children's rights with them.

I'm very close to voting Tory for that exact reason HettieMills - I've just shared the For Women Scotland crowdfunder on twitter saying this is probably the most important courtcase for women in the last two hundred years. I really believe that. Once 'women' comes to legall include 'men' we are f * * ked

Biden I suspect now is not only not in charge of his own administration, he appears to not even have the ability to actually understand and comprehend what he is signing and the narrative and hate behind it.

Many of us have questioned his ability to lead the country at such an advanced age, some of us have questioned whether he has dementia or certainly the early signs (My father in law died aged 65 of dementia after ten years, I know what I can see) and now he has done this I am even more concerned about his state of mind.

It seems to me like he is being used as vehicle to drive home certain agendas that would not have made it past any American President in normal times. They used the Moderate American's fear of Trump to shoo in an even more dangerous model, a President that does not have full capacity. And this could be just the start of how they intend to capitalise.

I do not say this lightly, but from day one I have always wondered why Biden has not been able to speak freely, why his wife has been by his side so much prompting him along, why he makes very obvious mistakes and is not aware of them. He shuffles in and does what he needs to do and shuffles off again, completely seemingly unaware of how his delivery is being received. What we have now is a puppet President - and holding the strings is now very obvious to all.

There is not a President in living memory that would have even considered this action. Not even Trump, especially not Trump. For all of his faults.

Well it is not over yet, and the courts are packed full of conservative Judges, this is not over by a long chalk, but how we got here? That is the biggest worry of all, and what exactly is coming next?

I very much enjoyed the overnight plop from the poster referencing “fash” and “my enemies”. More, please! You absolutely nailed the heart of the genderist position, please carry on

I don’t have the headspace for anything more profound than snark right now, but I am also concerned about the direction of travel...

Indeed there are a lot of unknowns. I don't watch tv news so I've never actually heard Biden speak. But he is older than Trump who also showed signs of cognitative impearment. Like the Chinese curse I think we live in interesting times.

Omg those Twitter comments and memes.
Where are my smelling salts I need a lie down.
Swoon.