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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

GIDS rated ‘inadequate’ by CQC

194 replies

TheFleegleHasLanded · 20/01/2021 00:28

www.theguardian.com/society/2021/jan/20/gender-identity-development-service-for-children-rated-inadequate

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RedHoodGirl · 20/01/2021 00:37

It looks like the low rating is primarily due to the long waiting list at the Tavistock?

HecatesCats · 20/01/2021 00:39

The Care Quality Commission (CQC) took immediate enforcement action against the Tavistock and Portman NHS foundation trust when it completed the inspection in November, which rated the service overall “inadequate” and highlighted overwhelming caseloads, deficient record-keeping and poor leadership.

Has it gone from good to inadequate?

The emphasis in the article is on the waiting times, what about pressure on CAMHS? No mention of social contagion or the increased profile of the Tavistock as a cure all for gender dysphoria.

The idea that this organisation should be allowed to press ahead as before given the Keira Bell case, the review and now this, is laughable.

HecatesCats · 20/01/2021 00:40

@RedHoodGirl

It looks like the low rating is primarily due to the long waiting list at the Tavistock?
Yes, but the long waiting times are because of increased demand. What's behind that?
RedHoodGirl · 20/01/2021 01:00

Hypothesising about demand isn’t the remit of the CQC.

bishopgiggles · 20/01/2021 01:12

How staff recorded their work was also scrutinised: the report found that the competency, capacity and consent of patients referred for medical treatment was not consistently recorded before January 2020. The change was a result of the high court ruling in the Keira Bell case, which found that that children considering gender reassignment were unlikely to be able to give informed consent.

Have they got the year wrong or are they talking about something else that happened a year ago?

HecatesCats · 20/01/2021 01:16

@RedHoodGirl

Hypothesising about demand isn’t the remit of the CQC.
What's your hypothesis?
JamieLeeCurtains · 20/01/2021 01:17

I'd rather read the report than the usual weird Guardian spin mash-up.

I'll have a search for it - I assume it's online?

HecatesCats · 20/01/2021 01:19

I can't find it, but would also like to read if anyone has a link.

JamieLeeCurtains · 20/01/2021 01:20

The inspection report doesn't seem to be up on the CQC website yet.

HecatesCats · 20/01/2021 01:23

No, I've checked a couple of times. May not be posted until tomorrow am but release sent out to media in advance.

PlantMam · 20/01/2021 01:25

Have they got the year wrong or are they talking about something else that happened a year ago?

The date is right. Mrs A and Sue Evans filed their request for the judicial review at the end of 2019, Keira joined as lead claimant in January 2020, iirc, which I think is when the court officially agreed to
hear the judicial review.

GIDS then started a formal process for obtaining consent, presumably because Keira Bell made them shit their collective britches.

JamieLeeCurtains · 20/01/2021 01:34

I think it's a bit shit that the bloody Guardian et. al. get a preview of the report before the public, and are therefore able to woke-spin it without challenge.

Looking forward to a proper breakdown of the full report on here.

PlantMam · 20/01/2021 01:39

Citation for the post above: Keira joined the application for JR on January 22nd 2020:

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.economist.com/britain/2020/02/01/a-pushback-against-trans-activism-in-britain

It was initially filed by Sue Evans and Mrs A in
October 2019:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/therapist-raised-alert-at-troubling-practices-at-tavistock-clinic-nfhsbb76n

Permission was granted at the end of Feb 2020

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/society/2020/mar/01/families-divided-tavistock-nhs-gender-clinic-judicial-review-goes-ahead

The case began in court on October 7th 2020 and judges decision was published on December 1st.

JamieLeeCurtains · 20/01/2021 05:21

Ben Hunte has written a similar piece for the BBC.

What I want to know - and what the Guardian and the BBC journos are being coy about - is what exactly does the CQC mean by saying the management of the waiting lists is inadequate?

The CQC surely isn't encouraging the speeding up of unnecessary surgical and irreversible medical interventions in children? I do wonder if the full report wants to see better pathways to mental health therapies.

How convenient we don't yet know.

TomatoesAreFruit · 20/01/2021 05:37

This is what Ben Hunte said in BBC article:
"After reviewing 35 care records, the CQC found there was "no clearly defined assessment process" and "many records did not demonstrate good practice".

The records also appeared to be "insufficient" in considering the needs of young people with autism spectrum disorders.

In a sample of 22 records, the CQC found more than half mentioned autistic spectrum disorder or attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), but "records did not demonstrate consideration of the relationship between autistic spectrum disorder and gender dysphoria"."
www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/health-55723250

On the last point regarding ASD/ADHD isn't that what women have been raising concerns about for years, and have been continually shut down or called transphobic.

JamieLeeCurtains · 20/01/2021 05:57

Absolutely, @TomatoesAreFruit.

The detailed report will be very illuminating re the further information contained within, especially with the GIDS appeal forthcoming.

TrashedWarrior · 20/01/2021 06:20

NHS child gender clinic rated 'inadequate' by inspectors www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55723250

TrashedWarrior · 20/01/2021 06:21

Sorry, it's upthread.

TrashedWarrior · 20/01/2021 06:21

I notice he led with the number of children waiting and wait times.

This is not the reason it's failed!

Icanseegreenshoots · 20/01/2021 06:44

About bloody time.

MoleSmokes · 20/01/2021 06:47

PlantMam the Guardian article mentions the ruling in the Keira Bell case:

"the report found that the competency, capacity and consent of patients referred for medical treatment was not consistently recorded before January 2020. The change was a result of the high court ruling in the Keira Bell case, which found that that children considering gender reassignment were unlikely to be able to give informed consent."

Of course, the Grauniad could have muddled things up in their reporting.

These CQC comments are damning and would merit referral of the relevant practitioners to the HCPC, querying their fitness to practice:

"The report also stated that staff did not develop holistic care plans for young people, nor did they fully record the reasons for their clinical decisions in case notes.

“There were significant variations in the clinical approach of professionals in the team and it was not possible to clearly understand from the records why these decisions had been made,” the report says."

This in what is supposedly a "national centre of excellence". It does not get much worse without the CQC finding evidence of harm to patients. That is part of the problem with poor record keeping: there could be harm but it is impossible to know. What is known is that harms are more likely if records do not demonstrate a basic level of care and professionalism.

The fact that everyone was happy when they were eventually seen and, or because, GIDS gave them what they were asking for does not carry much weight if there are no records of clinical decision-making and holistic therapy plans. GIDS is not funded to be an NHS drugs-on-demand service.

The NHS Commissioners on behalf of NHS England set the service specification and are supposed to be monitoring performance and standards. They have been "captured" but, thank heavens, it seems that the CQC remains objective and independent.

TrashedWarrior · 20/01/2021 06:49

Anything from the times?

Whatwouldscullydo · 20/01/2021 06:54

I await our public apology .....

Why do they always write these stories as if its some kind of surprise they never knew about.

What have we been discussing for/emailing mps about/being deleted for this whole bloody time...

CodenameVillanelle · 20/01/2021 06:58

@Whatwouldscullydo

I await our public apology .....

Why do they always write these stories as if its some kind of surprise they never knew about.

What have we been discussing for/emailing mps about/being deleted for this whole bloody time...

Absolutely!!
Doyoumind · 20/01/2021 07:01

The BBC article is interesting in that it includes reporting by Ben Hunte and analysis by the Newsnight team. It feels like there has been a shift in how they are reporting on the issue, particularly after that awful piece from BH recently that had to be amended.