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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Scottow conviction overturned on appeal.

252 replies

marvellousnightforamooncup · 10/12/2020 12:48

Whoop!

Just seen her tweet.

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 10/12/2020 13:39

It reads as though she sought this person out was her actions were described as harassment by one article.

Evidently the court, who would have access to all the facts, disagreed.

ArabellaScott · 10/12/2020 13:43

Well, thank fuck for that.

MichelleofzeResistance · 10/12/2020 13:45

Good news Kate Flowers

allmywhat · 10/12/2020 13:47

Oh fantastic! I was absolutely horrified when she was convicted.

Can't say anything honest about ol' Facetune here I know, but BiscuitBiscuitBiscuitBiscuitBiscuitBiscuitBiscuitBiscuitBiscuitBiscuitBiscuitBiscuitBiscuitBiscuitBiscuitBiscuitBiscuitBiscuitBiscuitBiscuitWine

I'm so glad the legal injustice has been rectified, though being legally cleared is not going to undo the bullshit she has been put through.

FannyCann · 10/12/2020 13:50

Brilliant news. Very happy for Kate. Wine

Coyoacan · 10/12/2020 13:50

Excellent news. NCNCNNC obviously you have been reading different sources from me and the courts.

Signalbox · 10/12/2020 13:55

Genuine question though: why the happiness about the decision being overturned?

It's quite worrying that people are being given criminal convictions for unkindness. That's why I'm glad that this appeal has been successful.

www.spiked-online.com/2020/02/17/kate-scottow-and-the-freedom-to-be-unkind/

Judge Margaret Dodd, when sentencing Scottow said, ‘We teach our children to be kind to each other and not to call each other names, you should follow that principle. We think before we write.’ With reference to the particular Twitter exchange that prompted Hayden to contact the police she said, ‘I take the view it was unkind and abusive… you cannot hide behind excuses’

MrsSteveMcDonald · 10/12/2020 13:57

Great news. It really feels like reality is starting to break through now and that people are realising what a misogynist and regressive thing trans is.

Mollyollydolly · 10/12/2020 13:59

I'm really pleased for her. It was outrageous .. and she always makes me laugh too.

BettyFloop · 10/12/2020 14:03

Sanity prevails!
Excellent news - I'm very happy for Kate but it should never have happened in the first place. She's been through hell. I hope the result of the appeal gets reported for all the world to see.

Gin Cake and Flowers for Kate.

Wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 10/12/2020 14:06

Good news. The conviction put an end to her career and I wonder if she will be reinstated.

ItRubsTheLotionOnItsSkin · 10/12/2020 14:11

Fucking YES!!!!

It feels like the tide is finally, finally turning with Keira's case and this, but isn't it telling it has taken people's lives to have already been damaged to this extent for this to happen? It feels wrong to feel "happy" though, as this is righting a wrong that should never have happened anyway (for Keira too). What kind of world do we live in that we are ending up celebrating common sense instead of expecting it as a fucking baseline.

Imnobody4 · 10/12/2020 14:13

Wonderful news, just maybe sanity is starting to prevail.

TirisfalPumpkin · 10/12/2020 14:21

This is great news, must be a heck of a weight off KS’s shoulders.

Big deal for those of us who are honest, direct and inclined to ‘say what you see’ (due to age, developmental disability or just personality/ethics)

CatsCantCatchCriminals2 · 10/12/2020 14:23

This is an excellent comment:

What kind of world do we live in that we are ending up celebrating common sense instead of expecting it as a fucking baseline.

AgathaChristiesFurcoat · 10/12/2020 14:29

Good news indeed

LizzieSiddal · 10/12/2020 14:29

Bloody fantastic! I'm so pleased for Kate and her family.

What with this, Keira's ruling and the resent Govt school guidance, things are moving in the right direction.Smile

Melroses · 10/12/2020 14:33

Good news. We seem to be having an outbreak of common sense Grin

Smiles all round at Kate's this Christmas Xmas Grin

Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons · 10/12/2020 14:40

Oh this is wonderful news!

SunsetBeetch · 10/12/2020 14:40

Brilliant, Brilliant, Brilliant!!!

Congratulations, Kate!

SunsetBeetch · 10/12/2020 14:44

@NCNCNNC

Never heard of this case before, just Googled it and read some articles including the one someone linked above which balances it out a bit. Genuine question though: why the happiness about the decision being overturned?

From the bits I read it seems she was trolling this person, was asked to stop by the police and then commented on a statement made by them? It reads as though she sought this person out was her actions were described as harassment by one article.

Nope.
RoyalCorgi · 10/12/2020 14:46

Judge Margaret Dodd, when sentencing Scottow said, ‘We teach our children to be kind to each other and not to call each other names, you should follow that principle. We think before we write.’ With reference to the particular Twitter exchange that prompted Hayden to contact the police she said, ‘I take the view it was unkind and abusive… you cannot hide behind excuses’

Two things that are extraordinary about this. One is the idea that being unkind should be illegal - in which case, frankly, we're all in trouble, because I doubt there is a single person alive who hasn't been unkind at some point in their life.

The second is that the judge took absolutely no account of the provocation from Kate's accuser. I have to be very careful what I say here because the person who accused Kate is notoriously litigious but I would recommend anyone who wants to know more to google Stephanie Hayden.

Charcutaria · 10/12/2020 14:50

@NCNCNNC

Never heard of this case before, just Googled it and read some articles including the one someone linked above which balances it out a bit. Genuine question though: why the happiness about the decision being overturned?

From the bits I read it seems she was trolling this person, was asked to stop by the police and then commented on a statement made by them? It reads as though she sought this person out was her actions were described as harassment by one article.

There's always one, knows nothing and has never heard of this case. A quick Google and poster decides that they know better than the judge.
MichelleofzeResistance · 10/12/2020 14:56

Two things that are extraordinary about this. One is the idea that being unkind should be illegal - in which case, frankly, we're all in trouble,

Even more extraordinary: it's a judge expressing an idea of 'unkindness' that is not a held value applied equally to all impartially, but a political position that it is only certain people being unkind who should be illegal. A law applied only to some and not to others.

PurpleHoodie · 10/12/2020 15:02

Even more extraordinary: it's a judge expressing an idea of 'unkindness' that is not a held value applied equally to all impartially, but a political position that it is onlycertain peoplebeing unkind who should be illegal. A law applied only to some and not to others.