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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

UN says feminism should be trans inclusive

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MrsSlocombesPussy · 08/12/2020 00:09

twitter.com/UNWomenUK/status/1336073463325454336?s=20

Most of the comments I read are pointing out the obvious.

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NeurotrashWarrior · 08/12/2020 12:17

Facebook comments are also v positive.

Looks like they were deleting but have stopped.

Possible sea change?

Positrans · 08/12/2020 12:21

Lovely to see more and more major organisations supporting trans people. I makes me feel more optimistic about the future.

ThatIsNotMyUsername · 08/12/2020 12:22

And not supporting women? Why does that make you feel optimistic?

SophocIestheFox · 08/12/2020 12:25

Can you tell me what it was specifically about Monroes clip on this tweet that made you feel positive, posi? What did you feel would be the action off the back of it that would be a positive thing?

VulvaPerson · 08/12/2020 12:25

Whats really interesting to me in this whle thing, is how invisible transmen are. When companies and such shout for 'trans inclusivity' what they mean is exclude transmen, and include transwomen. When honestly, transmen could potentially have more difficulties in life and require more support than other women do. Yet, they are only ever thought of as an afterthought, by those who claim to care about transpeople (though in reality only give a shit about transwomen), or as a convenient gotchya.

ArabellaScott · 08/12/2020 12:26

Possible sea change?

For absolutely sure. People are increasingly aware of the more sinister aspects of this ideology, and more inclined to call it out. At one end of the wedge we have Bergdorf waffling on about including everyone - at the other end we have unlicensed, unproven medication being given to children and rapists in women's prisons.

Wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 08/12/2020 12:35

Lovely to see more and more major organisations supporting trans people. I makes me feel more optimistic about the future.

Why shouldn't UN Women focus on women?

Madvixen · 08/12/2020 12:38

One of the comments on the FB page says we need to include working class men in feminism as they are also victims of the patriarchy. It's becoming clearer and clearer that certain people and groups just want feminism (as a political stance) done away with for good.

HecatesCatsInXmasHats · 08/12/2020 12:41

If 'born in the wrong body' theory is no longer acceptable and even Mermaids acknowledge it, are organisations like UNWomen now prepares to accept that Transwomen aren't women? I'd have thought believing TWAW would be dependent on some sort of belief that they're real women who've somehow ended up in a male body by accident.

aliasundercover · 08/12/2020 12:51

Has the original tweet gone? I’m getting nothing when I click the link.

ScreamingBeans · 08/12/2020 13:34

UN is run by men, yes?

cheeseismydownfall · 08/12/2020 14:47

@aliasundercover

Has the original tweet gone? I’m getting nothing when I click the link.
I think they've pulled it, yes - I saw it this morning and now it's disappeared - presumably after it got ratioed to fuck
Kit19 · 08/12/2020 14:54

UNwomen centering male born people - well its hard to know what you're doing when you're a formless entity I suppose.....

stumbledin · 08/12/2020 14:57

Has the tweet been deleted? I cant see it. What date and time was it posted?

Thanks

PlantMam · 08/12/2020 15:22

Anyone got an archive link? Because it looks as through the tweet has been deleted.

littlbrowndog · 08/12/2020 15:28

It’s still there but yet deleted. Weird

UN says feminism should be trans inclusive
Madvixen · 08/12/2020 15:28

The tweet has been deleted but the video is still live on their FB page

stumbledin · 08/12/2020 16:19

Thanks - I went to the facebook page where it is very much in place Angry although most comments just say they have no business posting this - specifically during the 16 Days of Action Against Violence Against Women.

PurpleHoodie · 08/12/2020 16:25

Worth repeating that Feminism is inclusive of all females - including transmen.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 08/12/2020 16:50

Wait a moment.... Feminism has to include working class men???

Did I move planets overnight????

Crikey some try so very hard, don't they?

PurpleHoodie · 08/12/2020 16:58

Working Class men can be taught to understand
Feminism.

It is not there for their inclusion, or centering.

They may be allowed to be (or prove themselves to be) allies.

PurpleHoodie · 08/12/2020 16:59

They do curious. They do.

Passmeabottlemrjones · 08/12/2020 17:37

I can't see it on the UN Women Facebook page either?

CuriousaboutSamphire · 08/12/2020 17:43

fb.watch/2ft8Z_jYW7/

Or did it get pulled whie I was feeding the dog?

Oh, it's UN Women UK

Passmeabottlemrjones · 08/12/2020 18:15

Oh I have found it, thank you.

Absolutely blistering comments, fantastic!

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