Woke staff revolt over Jordan Peterson book

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thepostmillennial.com/publishers-woke-staff-revolt-over-jordan-petersons-new-book

Isn't he regarded as transphobic for refusing to use compelled speech and warning of the consequences (and proven right by Yaniv). Seems like the woke at Random House publishing are appalled that their business is based on making a profit. Peterson may not be your glass of tea but he's hardly Goebals.

Ridiculous. They should try having some actual problems. I don’t like Jordan Peterson but he’s allowed to hold the views he likes. Also he has a huge following and writes clearly, so the book will sell. It’s a bit like when the woke crew told us to boycott JK Rowling and buy some books by trans writers instead. The problem is that people want to read JK’s books and they’re not going to stop doing that just because some people disagree with JK’s views. Same with Jordan Peterson I would imagine.

"They’re not going to acknowledge the reason they're doing it is for money“ says someone who maybe used to think book publishing was about curing cancer and bringing about world peace.

The reaction on social media and in a lot of the mainstream media has been pretty savage to the cry babies.

Cancel Culture creeps is all they are.

Actually, Cancel Culture cry-babies is much better!

Can't stand Peterson, and disagree with much of what he says. However, trying to ban him from being heard is just silly. Plus, why have they not realised yet, that when they try to ban books, it gives the books more publicity, and makes people who would otherwise not care very interested in them, resulting in MORE of the book being sold, not less. This has been obvious, by the results of them previously trying this shit, yet they do it again and again, presumably expecting different results as I cannot see that deep down they want the authors/books to be more popular?!

Isn't he regarded as transphobic for refusing to use compelled speech and warning of the consequences

Yes he is regarded as trans phobic, but he has always said he is happy to address trans people by their preferred pronouns. His objection was to Canada making it a hate crime to misgender/not use a trans person’s preferred pronouns. So in other words, he’s not against using different pronouns, just against it being legislated and criminalised.

Crying about an author being published.

Really? They can't cope with someone having a different viewpoint?

It's like the toddlers never grew up.

Funny that you should mention Goebbels, OP - Penguin publish a translation of Mein Kampf.

This book banning nonsense is crazy and I hope Penguin pay it no more mind than they have already.

Whether or not we like Peterson or his books, if they can be banned because some people don't like them, then basically every book can be.

I really think some people have so few actual problems in their lives that they feel the need to create imaginary ones.

Who cries in front of their employer because they won't ban a book from an author you dislike? 🙄

Imagine crying at work, and expecting to make a point, get your own way.

Jobs in those prestigious publishing houses are like gold dust.

Veggie waitresses have to serve meat dinners and get on with it .

I dunno what the economic projections for Canada are looking like (they have handled covid way better than us) but in the UK unemployment is projected to hit over 10% next year.

I would suggest this might be a very bad time to leave your employer with the impression that you were a whiny overgrown toddler with no grasp on either the key values of the job (support for free speech being pretty fundamental) or the source of your industry's profits.

I don't personally think that much of Peterson: to my mind he's the "non-thinking man's intellectual." But he's entitled to express his views, and he has an enormous following.

Let’s burn the books! 🙄

Two words:

Streisand effect

Cara I live in Canada so I can tell you the economy here is quite sluggish.

So, no, those employees do not have instant jobs if they get fired unless their friend gives them one.

We haven't handled covid better either -- I would say we are like the UK with slow/not enough testing, not testing at airports, care homes not fit for purpose. Only difference may be culturally we are accustomed to seeing face masks because we have a lot of Asians wearing them here for many years. Also we're very spread out.

Why are all these woke types so against freedom of speech?

I quite like Peterson at times. Other times I disagree - I manage my trauma about it.

Especially these days, people need to hear the bleeding obvious.

That's hardly the point though, is it.

The world is full of suffering and injustice. Some problems can't be solved. Some people can't agree how best to solve the ones that can.
Publishers will tackle all these big subjects, and there will be different staff members who have different triggers - don't put me on a book about car accidents, for example.

That's understandable. But the wailing and expectation that one or two sensitive subjects, out of a planet full of them, are what should be prioritised above all else, is just utterly narcissistic.

Me. My problems. Me, me. Doesn't project stability or perspective or competency.

@Fromage

Why are all these woke types so against freedom of speech?

Extending 'hate speech' to mean almost anything is how the mental justification goes, I think.

Peterson is probably delighted as is the publisher. Loads of lovely free publicity to guarantee the book is a best seller.

Yeah.

Crying to their boss, trying to prevent management from doing what they're in business to do and risking their continuing employment in the middle of a pandemic where tens of thousands of people have been fired/made redundant wasn't the smartest move.

@Fromage

Why are all these woke types so against freedom of speech?

Such a good point. We keep seeing this. Over and over again. How can the people demanding this not have any awareness of how bad this actually looks (and us!) You're not asking for a good thing here - this is authoritarian censorship over someone with a different opinion to yours. Give your head a wobble! Plurality of opinion is not an intrinsically bad thing. Insisting everyone thinks the way that you do or must be silenced, that is bad.

- I'll warn you, it's catchy. Sums it up for me!

They've really made themselves look like overblown silly buggers. Maybe publishing isn't a good fit for them if they get so upset about other people writing books.

I wondered if this would be posted here when I read it this morning.

I'm horrified that actual adults with actual jobs think that it's OK to cry to get their own way at work. It literally makes me cringe.

How have they never grown up?

It's so embarrassing for these people

If they had any clue what JP is actually about (free speech, basically being responsible and taking on life's cruelties) they might see the irony in what they have done

I agree with Douglas Murray on this one - the publishing house should fire the lot of them