Amnesty International (Ireland) and NGO's argues for removal of political representation of women who defend biologicial reality

[GrainneMhaol]

But don't worry they are arguing for the right to access surrogacy, so they do know what biology is

"Let us say unequivocally that the statements of newly launched organisations that seek to defend biology or fight gender identity and expression do not represent the wider LGBTI+ community nor feminists in Ireland."

"We call on media, and politicians to no longer provide legitimate representation for those that share bigoted beliefs, that are aligned with far right ideologies and seek nothing but harm and division"

"Even now, transgender people continue to work for reforms that will increase the rights of gay and lesbian parents in surrogacy and adoption."

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This is an Amnesty document:

www.amnesty.org/download/Documents/60000/act770082007en.pdf

Called SIX STEPS TO STOP VIOLENCE AGAINST SCHOOLGIRLS it explicitly demands that:

SCHOOLS HAVE SEX-SEGREGATED TOILETS AND WASHROOMS,

and yet, here is Amnesty telling is that anyone who recognises biology and biological sex should be banned from speaking.

Guess that includes Amnesty, then.

Time for them to shut up, really. This is horrific. It puts Amnesty up there alongside climate change deniers and Covid 5G enthusiasts as mad anti-science freaks.

Interesting that Ireland only just got around to finally abolishing blasphemy as a crime completely, in Jan of this year.

Clearly, the urge to accuse others - particularly women - of blaspheming and to treat them the way the Catholic Church in Ireland has treated women for centuries, is very strong.

Some men in Ireland very unhappy that Irish women have just regained some measure of control over their own bodies too with changes to abortion law. And so this is the backlash.

So angry for the women of Ireland. FFS what is going on? It may be that it took so long to get behind gay rights and women's right to chose that freedom has been trampled on as a by product of transrights????

Logical endpoint is that biology teachers shouldn't be allowed to vote?

Universal Declaration of Human Rights
www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/

Amnesty's suggestion breaches so many human rights I didn't want to C&P them all.

I love the reworked Amnesty logo, showing what they really centre, Littlbrowndog.

I wonder if amnesty Ireland and all who signed this letter would like the bad women of Ireland be put back,into the laundries

I think Scotland would support this as well

All bad women know your place

Have these people who,signed this letter lost their brains or do they just love love hating women

This has been playing on my mind since I saw this thread yesterday.
How awful- it's exactly the same feeling engendered by living with an abusive man.

Transgender adults should not be fearful that they might be targeted and killed on their walk home for simply living their lives.

Has this ever happened in Ireland? As someone pointed out on FWR the other day, Transgender Day of Remembrance, no trans people had been killed in Britain in the past year (though a group of transwomen were in the news for attacking a man who said TW were not women, and kicking him in the head). Meanwhile, 241 women were killed last year, but we don’t get a Remembrance day.

But nothing here is more chilling than human-rights organisations signing a letter saying We call on media, and politicians to no longer provide legitimate representation for those that share bigoted beliefs.

That would be wrong no matter what beliefs were being called “bigoted”. Nasty people still have human rights. But to sign that condemnation of anyone who doesn’t believe humans can change sex? Beyond belief.

That one sentence is just so chilling. The blatant desire to silence anyone who is not compliant. It is so Orwellian but happening before our eyes and supported by the very people who we expect to speak up for women. That it is supported by the National Women's Council, Amnesty and elected politicians is shocking.
The media appear to be taking their orders though, as there is silence on this in Irish media over the weekend.

A man asking the granddaughter of the person who founded amnesty

If she had read the letter. Couldn’t make this shite up

Good for her. She's right.

In his response to Iseult White Colm O'Gorman, Exec Dir of Irish Amnesty, also shared the lines about LGB Alliance being a 'hate group' via this thread falsely accusing LGBA of mendacity and transphobia:

twitter.com/robertbohan/status/1328399587724439554?s=21

I think Colm is the Executive Director isn't he? According to him everyone outraged over this can't possible be Irish, it's all those nasty UK wimmin who have no idea about the history of women's rights in Ireland 🙄

Ignoring the many women telling him they are actually Irish, in Ireland. But sure, it's all the fault of those pesky, meddling women in the UK 'cause they're the ones that take part in ''aggressively opposing trans rights''.

Perish the though that an Irish woman could have a mind of her own

Well. Colm O'Gorman doesn't even seem to try to defend the letter in the face of argument. Just 'I was only checking if you read it'. It is obviously in the territory of mantra repetition and smearing people who don't agree with it.

Not only do Amnesty Ireland seem to be failing to call out the lowering of safeguarding in a way self selecting people can avail of this lower bar. Defence of sacred castes, like in the past. New caste, but same story. They are calling for the discrimination against or disenfranchisement of people who are speaking out in defence of the rights of women against this new ideology. Change of source of misogyny, same story.

And not speaking out for the protection of children from intervention which has not had a proven benefit. Quite the contrary in some cases that we've heard about.

You couldn't make it up. Thank you Iseult.

Perish the though that an Irish woman could have a mind of her own

Indeed. It's purest patriarchal thinking, isn't it? 'Our women are kind and meek and welcoming of men stealing their rights. And they will bloody well do as they're told'.

My dad was Irish. It doesn't stop me from being able to form my own opinions, though.

Well, they're a bit removed from asking all the Irish people who are outside the country to come home to vote for the repeal of the 8th.

Are they now going to say, those Irish voters were foreign too? Even then, It is a bit of a thin wedge for Amnesty Ireland to tell people around the world to shut up about human rights if they are not citizens of the country where the human rights abuses are happening. Does Amnesty Ireland have comments to make on any situation outside Ireland? By their own thinking, they need to pull their oar out.

That Twitter thread is a good share.
To ask her if she's read the letter before commenting. How very insulting.
All the signatories of that letter need to give their heads a wobble until they realise what it is they are asking for. It's bullying and Orwellian.

@littlbrowndog

A man asking the granddaughter of the person who founded amnesty

If she had read the letter. Couldn’t make this shite up

Colm O 'Gorman really doesn't appear to have any respect for women, does he? To ask her if she had read the letter is jaw dropping in its condescension. His inability to actually defend the letter speaks volumes though.

[quote HecatesCats]In his response to Iseult White Colm O'Gorman, Exec Dir of Irish Amnesty, also shared the lines about LGB Alliance being a 'hate group' via this thread falsely accusing LGBA of mendacity and transphobia:

twitter.com/robertbohan/status/1328399587724439554?s=21[/quote]
They seem to be rattled by the LGB alliance, don't they?
The email sent to school principals seems to be mainly concerned with safeguarding. Yet this is the group they are asking the Irish media and government to not give a voice to?
Why?

Colm O,Gorman seems to only likevwomen that agree with him

Same as Scottish men in positions of power.

You have to be an agreeable woman. And agree with what they say whatever it is they say

Colm O'Gorman is confused about the content of the letter. He's claiming it only addresses LGB Alliance and is doing so explicitly. It probably started that way but the author could not resist expanding it to have a go at "feminists" and "groups*. He's insisting it's not directed at women, so he doesn't consider women as LGB or feminist.

A gay man joined him last night in telling a woman to mind her own business!

They must have nodded off during diversity training.

He's really fucked up there. Claiming the letter says the things he thinks it says and not the things it does say just reveals utter incompetence, carelessness and a willingness to wag his tail for any old agenda.

That ludicrous and embarrassingly mediocre artist Bohan, has now moved onto having a go at feminists in Trinity College. What a complete arlsehole. Women must have their thoughts audited before being allowed to be at university. He's definitely leading the new priesthood isn't he?

*I’ve also discovered amongst the legion of foreign far right & colonial bigots a group that claims to be a feminist org in TCD. It would be interesting if .
@Trinity_News
looked into them as to who they are & how the Provost & board feels about their breach of college ethics.
12:46 pm · 23 Nov 2020·Twitter for iPhone

Far right and colonial bigots! The name calling gets more outlandish by the day.

He also wants Americans with Irish names to be hauled back to Ireland for reprogramming. They are exercising their freedom of speech in the USA and he doesn't like it. Are there spare confession boxes he can use?

@Escapeplanning

Far right and colonial bigots! The name calling gets more outlandish by the day.

He also wants Americans with Irish names to be hauled back to Ireland for reprogramming. They are exercising their freedom of speech in the USA and he doesn't like it. Are there spare confession boxes he can use?

He actually wants scholarships for anyone with Irish sounding names to return to Ireland for this reprogramming . Though anyone of Irish ancestry without an Irish name would not qualify, it would appear.